Re: Bogus low-memory mode
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org> wrote:
> Donald Allen, le Wed 29 May 2013 07:50:52 -0400, a écrit :
>> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org> wrote:
>> > Donald Allen, le Wed 29 May 2013 07:29:42 -0400, a écrit :
>> >> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org> wrote:
>> >> > Donald Allen, le Tue 28 May 2013 23:31:34 -0400, a écrit :
>> >> >> Another issue: on the 600x, I did a
>> >> >>
>> >> >> shutdown -hP now
>> >> >
>> >> > Please make sure to read the faq :)
>> >>
>> >> If 'shutdown' is known not to work and, from the FAQ, apparently does
>> >> not work by design, why include it?
>> >
>> > Because in the end we want shutdown to actually work, there's actually a
>> > gsoc project that has just started precisely for that.
>> >
>> >> make a tiny shutdown script that echoes the FAQ text,
>> >
>> > It's the sysvinit package which provides it, not the hurd package.
>> > Changing the shutdown command would require diverting it, or patching
>> > the sysvinit package, etc. which might be even more messy.
>>
>> Maybe a bit more messy for you, but a lot less messy for users, who
>> you are trying to attract, at this point to help you test this system
>> and find problems. Why annoy them with something that is known not to
>> work by assuming they'll consult a FAQ when they see something that
>> looks like a bug? In effect, I'm advocating providing a useful and
>> specific error message instead of what currently happens.
>
> Sure, I completely agree on this, that's not the question. The question
> is spending time on this. For my part, I'm very busy so didn't take the
> time to have a look at how to do this properly. If anybody has the time
> to have a look, he's welcome to send a patch.
I certainly can understand this. I'm *retired* and I'm so busy (I'm
fortunate in having a lot of interests) that I can't understand how I
found time for a full-time job.
As I said earlier, I do think that what you are trying to do on this
project makes a lot of sense architecturally (I'm familiar with
Tanenbaum's work and with Minix), and so I will try to help as my time
permits. Right now I'm documenting some software that I wrote over the
last year that my family is using and finishing that has to be my
first priority (playing with Hurd was a diversion -- like most, I
don't always do first things first).
/Don
>
> Samuel
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