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Re: Plans for X

On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 07:48:40PM -0700, Steve Bowman wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 03:30:56AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 05:22:11PM -0700, Steve Bowman wrote:
> > > I had some problems with X 3.3.6 on cvs hurd last night I was going
> > > to report, then your message arrived so I'll combine that report with
> > > my response....
> > 
> > Okay, let's see...
> > 
> [snip]
> > 
> > I don't know which CVS you mean, so I don't know which sources you actually
> > compiled.
> export CVSROOT=:pserver:anoncvs@subversions.gnu.org:/cvs
> cd .../hurd
> cvs update
> updated 20001020 at 21:02 MST (GMT -0700)

Ah, I thought you were recompiling X... this explains a lot of my confusion,
sorry :)
> > > I'm wondering if there's something going on with the hurd that X is
> > > triggering.  What's changed since the 20000921 hurd except the tunnel
> > > changes?
> > 
> > Nothing. I suspect that your build is broken, but I don't know which sources
> > you actually compiled. No official source or repository I know of carries my
> > patches.
> Just hurd cvs.  The X 3.3.6 packages were the standard debs available
> on the mirrors.  Your patches are just for X right, no uncommited hurd
> patches?

Well, I changed mainly (only?) pfinet, and that's certainly unrelated if you
don't use TCPCONN, and even then.

I will have to patch the mouse translator, and maybe fix the kbd translator,
but kbd is mostly usable and mouse is broken in X as well, so go figure.
> > > I haven't tried restoring the old hurd yet to verify that X works again,
> > > but I actually did the same thing last weekend and restoring the old
> > > (0921) hurd cured X. I didn't report it yet because I wanted to rebuild
> > > and reinstall hurd to make sure the problem wasn't there.  AFAICT,
> > > it's a clean build except as noted in [1].
> > 
> > Mmmh. If you really can verify that it works with the 0921 hurd, but not
> > with your new one, I will retract what I said above :)
> Verified.  X 3.3.6 works with 0921 hurd but not with cvs hurd.
> I just retested X (failed), downgraded hurd, and retested X (success).
> An extract of the X output log is in [1].  This time, the failed X test
> went a little differently.  I didn't try to see what would happen on
> a restart so I didn't get the "X is already running" error and such.
> I was just trying to confirm the same X worked on 0921 and not on cvs
> (20001020) hurd.

That looks quite bad. Seems your Hurd build went hovac. I never saw
something like this, but I didn't test the recent CVS in full, only pfinet.
I will prepare a new Debian Hurd package soon, and then I'll see if I can
reproduce that.

Try replacing only the /hurd/lbd translator, if that's the culprit.
> > I have something better, the 4.0 patch, see above. All of the upstream
> > related changes in the 3.3.6 patch are integrated. BTW, this patch is for
> > the official 401 tar file, not for the Debian source. I don't have the
> > Debian source here currently, so I can't work from that. Will do it tomorrow
> > or later this week. But progress is steady, and I am not concerned about the
> > Debian packaging, it's not hard. What needs work is the display and mouse
> > stuff, and if you can help fixing that, great. But if you don't have much
> > time, I'll probably beat you to that because I really want to push this
> > through.
> OK.  I'll see about downloading 401 tonight and try your patch if I can
> find room to build it.  My hurd partition is starting to get full, so
> I'll try building into an nfs-mounted partition which has more space.
> (My local ext2fs partitions are too big to use :-( but nfs-mounted
> partitions don't seem to have that limit :-).)

Just as a guideline:

du xc
227360  xc

That's a full build without debugging symbols.

I checked the cvs logs, but they don't reveal much. David Dawes frobbed the
Hurd mouse handling code, and if we can't resolve it, I will contact him for
help. But we should at least make an honest attempt to fix it ourselve.

I saw my card is not supported under X4.0 (Trio64). I still don't know if
the vga part should work anyway.

> > My primary goal is to get the upstream source in shape and commit the patch
> > to the X group and Branden. Then the Debian packaging will be adjusted.
> ACK, I'll see if I can keep up with you :-).  First I have to catch up....

I will get some sleep now, so you have some time to do it :)
> Fatal server error:
> Cannot set event mode on keyboard (Inappropriate ioctl for device)

That indicates some /dev/kbd problem.
> Fatal server error:
> can't reset keyboard mode (Inappropriate ioctl for device)
> -----  Stop Cut  -----
> Then several thousand lines of the same before I got the server shut down.

It should really try once and fail entirely...


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Marcus Brinkmann              GNU    http://www.gnu.org    marcus@gnu.org

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