hello hurders .. im using the giant-tar to install hurd right now .. i was wondering .. what method did everyone on the list use to install hurd .. is there a newer tar in the works (bug fixes or whatever) .. im also trying to get this on the net .. like on irc .. ive been hacking around alot .. ill report my findings later but i must sleep now later zero Debian GNU/Linux Potato Power Debian GNU/Hurd .. The Hurd is Coming zero@cyrondesign.com