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Re: Bad LIF Image Error on Install for C8000 and J6750



On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Jawahar Panchal <jpanchal@global-macro.org> wrote:

> 
> On Sep 3, 2014, at 6:24 AM, Thomas Schmitt <scdbackup@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>>> It's old, but most likely not worn-off.
>> 
>> I mostly meant the drive of Jawahar Panchal, of which we
>> do not yet know the model name.
>> 
> 
> Hello again - thanks to everyone for their time and help! This has been great reading/learning for myself. I will try and get the model name of the drive this weekend, and will also try with a DVD-RW disc to see if that works.
> 

Hello - apologies for the long turnarounds on this question, weekends is really the only time I get to try/test! :)

I did verify that both the C8000 and J6750 have DVD drives (DVD-RW in the former, DVD-ROM in the latter).

On the C8000, the SEARCH command in the PROM give the following model numbers:

   POTENTIAL BOOT DEVICES

   Path#  Device Path         Device Type              
   -----  -----------------   -------------------------
   P0     scsiA.6             HP 73.4GST373454LW                      
   P1     ide.0               HL-DT-STDVDRRW GWA-4161B                


I can’t really get to the old HP-UX install on the machine, so I don’t have more info on the drive itself - please let me know if more info on this model number is needed!

I did check to try and boot with no disc in the DVD-RW drive, and I did get an expected failure from the drive trying to boot - I am assuming the below is expected:

Main Menu: Enter command or menu > boot ide
Interact with IPL (Y, N, or Cancel)?> N

Booting... 
Failed to initialize with ENTRY_INIT Status = -7


     fffffff9 1 0 0 
     0 0 0 0 
     0 0 0 0 
     0 0 0 0 
     0 3 9 0 
     454e4841 0 0 454e4841 
     0 1b 51 20 
     3 51 20 3 
 .... FAILED.


I burned the NETINST image to a DVD-RW (4x Memorex disk, burned at the lowest 2.4x speed), however still no booting on the C8000 - same error on LIF magic. I then realized that the following needs to be followed on OSX for those who have tried to burn a bootable ISO for installation: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5132196 - I also verified that this was not the issue previously, and DVD media is needed.

So now I have a successful Debian HPPA boot! Thanks to everyone for their help.

Now, right after the kernel finishes boot and it seems debian-installer is launched, the content on the serial console is all garbled! I am using the standard serial console settings suggested for the C8000 (9600 8n1) via the following GNU screen command line on OSX for an HP usb-serial dongle: screen /dev/cu.usbserial-FTBAWB7G 9600,cs8,-parenb,-cstopb,-hupcl

Thoughts?

Again - thanks to everyone for the time and help - have gotten this far, hopefully the debian-installer piece is straightforward! :)

Jay


>> Ok. I retract "worn-off" and replace by "age-wise challenged". :))
>> 
>> 
>>> root@lsXX:/mnt# xorriso -outdev /dev/sr0 -list_profiles  
>>> ...
>>> Media current: is not recognizable
>>> Media status : is not recognizable
>>> ...
>>> Media summary: 1 session, 57583 data blocks,  112m data,     0 free
>> 
>> Not being a MMC drive, it might be not suitable for libburn.
>> 
>> 
>>> So, maybe firmware just checks the "Media status" as above and then fails
>>> because it's not "recognizable" ?
>> 
>> "not recognizable" is a misperception of libburn and xorriso,
>> probably because SCSI command GET CONFIGURATION is not supported
>> by the drive.
>> Other commands like  READ DISC INFORMATION, READ TRACK INFORMATION,
>> or READ TOC/PMA/ATIP seem to work.
>> 
>> One would have to run
>> 
>> xorriso -scsi_log on -outdev /dev/sr0 -list_profiles \
>>   2>&1 | tee -i /tmp/xorriso.log
>> 
>> in order to learn which particular commands do not work.
>> I am quite astonished to see a DVD drive with such
>> handicaps. So technically it would be of interest for me
>> to get such a /tmp/xorriso.log in private.
>> (It will hardly help this thread, though.)
>> 
>> 
>>> root@lsXX:/mnt# dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2 count=1 | od -c
>>> ...
>>> 0000000 200  \0
>> 
>> Grmpf. At least the problem is not easily reproducible.
>> Maybe the firmware complains about bad magic for more
>> mismatches than only the first LIF bytes.
>> 
>> The fact that your DVD+RW booted, shows that the firmware
>> does not demand a real LIF System Block as of
>> http://www.hp9845.net/9845/projects/hpdir/.
>> We store the address of the 32-bit kernel file where LIF
>> has "Directory Start".
>> 
>> A checkread of full image size from CD-RW might show that
>> some other blocks (of 2048 bytes) are bad.
>> Or maybe the DVD drive needs some heating by reading DVD+RW
>> before it is willing to read CD-RW.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a nice day :)
>> 
>> Thomas
>> 
> 


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