On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:14:01PM +0000, Helge Deller wrote: > Adeodato Simó wrote: > >hppa has certainly had trouble during this release cycle. However, it's > >been mostly reduced to a small set of packages, and since (a) it has not > >been the kind of brekage that prevents the release team from doing their > >job (alpha buildd outages eg. have been more painful), and (b) the > >architecture is not generally broken, it was decided not to use /our/ > >veto power to kick it out of lenny. (No decision taken for lenny+1 in > >either direction, though.) > >I realize the ruby1.9 situation is frustrating, but I don't think it's > >fair to drop hppa from lenny because of it. I don't think your "it's > >unlikely to be a 'good' stable arch" is true either. > >Otoh, it's really commendable, and I mean it, that you decided to spend > >your time towards having it fixed, rather than just kill ruby1.9 on hppa > >as I suggested (which is, tbh, what I would've done in your position). > >It really sucks that no hppa person is available to help, but my opinion > >is that's still more valuable to release with hppa without ruby1.9 > >there, > >than to drop hppa completely. > >So, what I would like from a release POV is to wait at most for this > >glibc -14 upload with context-fu on hppa that somebody somewhere said > >could fix the issue, > > I just looked into ruby19 on hppa. > The makecontext()/setcontext()/switchcontext() functions which went into > libc-ports recently [*2] will not help here. Clearly not, Adeodato was confused, this would fix the dirmngr issue, not ruby's. > Instead, I think only when at some point the glibc on hppa switches to > NPTL, ruby could work. This is probably not going to happen, and there are two things: (1) linuxthreads is mostly pure C, and ruby works fine on kfreebsd that uses linuxthreads ; (2) it produces unkillable processes which points to a kernel bug, and switching to NPTL wont't fix that kernel bug that is very likely to be used as a local DOS, and needs to be addressed either way. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O madcoder@debian.org OOO http://www.madism.org
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