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Re: hgettext not migrating without reason.



On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 23:08:02 +0200
Sven Bartscher <sven.bartscher@weltraumschlangen.de> wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 22:50:00 +0200
> Joachim Breitner <nomeata@debian.org> wrote:
> 
> > the information in the PTS on package uninstallability is unfortunately
> > not very helpful.
> > 
> > What I do to investigate such problems is
> >  * make sure all Haskell packages are installable:
> > http://jenkins.debian.net/job/chroot-installation_sid_install_haskell/
> > Last build mentions criterion and notmuch-web, I believe I have fixed
> > these yesterday and hope that the job finally succeeds (after 3 months!)
> > next time. But this only tests amd64.
> >  * make sure that there are no failed builds. Follow the link from
> > http://wiki.debian.org/Haskell to see the status of all packages on
> > buildd.debian.org, and watch for Failed (icon ~).
> >  * check if the binNMU scheduling script wants to schedule more
> > packages. Unfortunately, this requires access to wuiet.debian.org.
> > Currently, it does not detect problems.
> >  * finally, try to make sense of
> > https://release.debian.org/britney/update_output.txt
> > Look for lines starting with "Trying easy from autohinter" that mention
> > haskell packages. A few lines down are lines starting with " * <some
> > arch>", these are packages broken by the proposed upgrade (but without
> > explanation). The current autohint including gettext seems to break a
> > lot of packages, no idea what is left to do.
> > 
> > 
> > Maybe Niels Thyker, who has worked on the autohinter, is interested in
> > helping you solve the problem of „why does gettext not migrate“ and
> > might want to improve these tools.
> 
> Niels Thykier explained a little bit of "why does gettext not migrate",
> but more importantly: He told me how to interpret the autohinter
> output, in conjunction with the excuses. As it turns out, they seem to
> be helpful after all.
> 
> After thinking about this, I made a tool that takes a packages and
> shows all (at least I hope it gets all of them) the useful reasons why
> it can't migrate.
> 
> It does this as follows:
>  -Look in the britney output for the autohint that contains the
>   requested package.
>  -Get all the packages it breaks.
>  -Gather all excuses for that broken packages.
>  -Throw all excuses away, except those that are identified as
>   interesting.
> 
> This gives a list of excuses that isn't as overwhelming as the
> autohinter output.
> 
> The following excuses are identified as interesting:
>  -out of date on...
>  -introduces new bugs
>  -Too young (It's not really interesting, but it helps to tell if
>   there's a bug in the program or if you just have to wait until the
>   transition can happen)
> 
> The following excuses are discarded on purpose:
>  -Depends: (because the dependency should be listed seperately.)
> 
> If you find some excuses that should be also marked as interesting,
> please contact me.
> 
> I didn't come up with a name yet. So I'm interested in your
> suggestions. (And it's really tedious to call it "The tool that tells
> you why your packages don't migrate".)
> 
> I'm not sure wether to put it into the tools repository or to the
> package-plan. I more tend to put it to the tools, but please tell me
> what you're thinking.

I just put it to the tools, under the name reasons.hs. I guess if it
turns out it's better of in the package-plan, we can just move it.

> 
> The source code is attached. The program takes very long to produce
> it's result, since it needs to do a lot of calls to apt-cache and
> grep-excuses.
> It uses the local cache to map binary packages to src packages. So it
> might fail on testing, if there is a broken package, which is not in
> testing.
> 
> Regards
> Sven

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