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Re: Silly question: why no gnome in experimental



As you can see even using the metapackage from testing it works... at
least here :) 
 
root@escaflowne:/home/cantara$ apt-get -t experimental install gnome -s
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  abiword-common abiword-gnome bluefish dia-common dia-gnome dia-libs
esound gnome-core gnome-cups-manager gnome-desktop-environment
gnome-games
  gnome-games-data gnome-office gnome-themes gnome-themes-extras
gnomemeeting gnumeric gnumeric-common gtk2-engines-crux
gtk2-engines-lighthouseblue
  gtk2-engines-redmond95 gtk2-engines-smooth gtk2-engines-spherecrystal
gtk2-engines-thinice guile-1.6-libs libenchant1 libgnomecupsui1.0-1
  libgsf-gnome-1 libguile-ltdl-1 libopenh323-1.14.4 libpt-1.7.5
libpt-plugins-alsa libpt-plugins-v4l libqthreads-12 magicdev planner
sodipodi totem
  zenity
Suggested packages:
  abiword-plugins abiword-plugins-gnome abiword-doc weblint gnome-help
gnumeric-doc gnumeric-plugins-extra gnumeric-python gnumeric-gda
guppi-gnumeric
  gtk-engines-redmond95 libopenh323-dev
Recommended packages:
  abiword abiword-help abiword-gtk xfonts-abi x-ttcidfont-conf dia
gsfonts-x11 dasher gnome-mag gnopernicus gok gnome-accessibility-themes
  gnome-games-extra-data gnucash gtk-engines-industrial
libpt-plugins-avc libpt-plugins-dc gtk-smooth-themes
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  abiword-common abiword-gnome bluefish dia-common dia-gnome dia-libs
esound gnome gnome-core gnome-cups-manager gnome-desktop-environment
gnome-games
  gnome-games-data gnome-office gnome-themes gnome-themes-extras
gnomemeeting gnumeric gnumeric-common gtk2-engines-crux
gtk2-engines-lighthouseblue
  gtk2-engines-redmond95 gtk2-engines-smooth gtk2-engines-spherecrystal
gtk2-engines-thinice guile-1.6-libs libenchant1 libgnomecupsui1.0-1
  libgsf-gnome-1 libguile-ltdl-1 libopenh323-1.14.4 libpt-1.7.5
libpt-plugins-alsa libpt-plugins-v4l libqthreads-12 magicdev planner
sodipodi totem
  zenity
0 upgraded, 40 newly installed, 0 to remove and 21 not upgraded.
Inst abiword-common (2.0.10-1.2 Debian:testing)
Inst libenchant1 (1.1.4+cvs.2004.08.10-1 Debian:testing)
Inst abiword-gnome (2.0.10-1.2 Debian:testing)
Inst bluefish (0.13-1 Debian:testing)
Inst dia-common (0.94.0-2 Debian:testing)
Inst dia-libs (0.94.0-2 Debian:testing)
Inst dia-gnome (0.94.0-2 Debian:testing)
Inst esound (0.2.34-1 Debian:unstable)
Inst gnome-core (59 Debian:testing)
Inst libguile-ltdl-1 (1.6.4-4 Debian:testing)
Inst libqthreads-12 (1.6.4-4 Debian:testing)
Inst guile-1.6-libs (1.6.4-4 Debian:testing)
Inst gnome-games-data (1:2.8.1-1 Debian:experimental)
Inst gnome-games (1:2.8.1-1 Debian:experimental)
Inst gtk2-engines-thinice (2.8.0-1 Debian:experimental,
pkg-gnome:2004.10.15.13.20.39/experimental)
Inst gtk2-engines-crux (2.8.0-1 Debian:experimental,
pkg-gnome:2004.10.15.13.20.39/experimental)
Inst gtk2-engines-redmond95 (2.2.0-3 Debian:testing)
Inst gtk2-engines-lighthouseblue (2.8.0-1 Debian:experimental,
pkg-gnome:2004.10.15.13.20.39/experimental)
Inst gnome-themes (2.8.0-1 Debian:experimental,
pkg-gnome:2004.10.15.13.20.39/experimental)
Inst libpt-1.7.5 (1.7.5.2-3 Debian:experimental)
Inst libopenh323-1.14.4 (1.14.4.2-3 Debian:experimental)
Inst libpt-plugins-alsa (1.7.5.2-3 Debian:experimental)
Inst libpt-plugins-v4l (1.7.5.2-3 Debian:experimental)
Inst gnomemeeting (1.1.3cvs20040929-1 Debian:experimental)
Inst zenity (2.6.3-3 Debian:testing)
Inst gnome-desktop-environment (59 Debian:testing)
Inst libgsf-gnome-1 (1.10.1-1 Debian:testing)
Inst gnumeric-common (1.3.91-1 Debian:experimental) []
Inst gnumeric (1.3.91-1 Debian:experimental)
Inst planner (0.12-3 Debian:testing)
Inst sodipodi (0.34-0.1 Debian:testing)
Inst gnome-office (59 Debian:testing)
Inst libgnomecupsui1.0-1 (0.25-2 Debian:unstable)
Inst gnome-cups-manager (0.25-2 Debian:unstable)
Inst gtk2-engines-smooth (0.5.8-1 Debian:testing)
Inst gtk2-engines-spherecrystal (0.7-8 Debian:testing)
Inst gnome-themes-extras (0.7.debian.1-2 Debian:testing)
Inst magicdev (1.1.6-2 Debian:testing)
Inst totem (0.99.17-2 Debian:experimental)
Inst gnome (59 Debian:testing)
Conf abiword-common (2.0.10-1.2 Debian:testing)
Conf libenchant1 (1.1.4+cvs.2004.08.10-1 Debian:testing)
Conf abiword-gnome (2.0.10-1.2 Debian:testing)
Conf bluefish (0.13-1 Debian:testing)
Conf dia-common (0.94.0-2 Debian:testing)
Conf dia-libs (0.94.0-2 Debian:testing)
Conf dia-gnome (0.94.0-2 Debian:testing)
Conf esound (0.2.34-1 Debian:unstable)
Conf gnome-core (59 Debian:testing)
Conf libguile-ltdl-1 (1.6.4-4 Debian:testing)
Conf libqthreads-12 (1.6.4-4 Debian:testing)
Conf guile-1.6-libs (1.6.4-4 Debian:testing)
Conf gnome-games-data (1:2.8.1-1 Debian:experimental)
Conf gnome-games (1:2.8.1-1 Debian:experimental)
Conf gtk2-engines-thinice (2.8.0-1 Debian:experimental,
pkg-gnome:2004.10.15.13.20.39/experimental)
Conf gtk2-engines-crux (2.8.0-1 Debian:experimental,
pkg-gnome:2004.10.15.13.20.39/experimental)
Conf gtk2-engines-redmond95 (2.2.0-3 Debian:testing)
Conf gtk2-engines-lighthouseblue (2.8.0-1 Debian:experimental,
pkg-gnome:2004.10.15.13.20.39/experimental)
Conf gnome-themes (2.8.0-1 Debian:experimental,
pkg-gnome:2004.10.15.13.20.39/experimental)
Conf libpt-1.7.5 (1.7.5.2-3 Debian:experimental)
Conf libopenh323-1.14.4 (1.14.4.2-3 Debian:experimental)
Conf libpt-plugins-alsa (1.7.5.2-3 Debian:experimental)
Conf libpt-plugins-v4l (1.7.5.2-3 Debian:experimental)
Conf gnomemeeting (1.1.3cvs20040929-1 Debian:experimental)
Conf zenity (2.6.3-3 Debian:testing)
Conf gnome-desktop-environment (59 Debian:testing)
Conf libgsf-gnome-1 (1.10.1-1 Debian:testing)
Conf gnumeric (1.3.91-1 Debian:experimental)
Conf gnumeric-common (1.3.91-1 Debian:experimental)
Conf planner (0.12-3 Debian:testing)
Conf sodipodi (0.34-0.1 Debian:testing)
Conf gnome-office (59 Debian:testing)
Conf libgnomecupsui1.0-1 (0.25-2 Debian:unstable)
Conf gnome-cups-manager (0.25-2 Debian:unstable)
Conf gtk2-engines-smooth (0.5.8-1 Debian:testing)
Conf gtk2-engines-spherecrystal (0.7-8 Debian:testing)
Conf gnome-themes-extras (0.7.debian.1-2 Debian:testing)
Conf magicdev (1.1.6-2 Debian:testing)
Conf totem (0.99.17-2 Debian:experimental)
Conf gnome (59 Debian:testing)


On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 17:59 +0200, Magnus Therning wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 11:02:21AM +0100, Spiritchaser wrote:
> >apt-get -t experimental install gnome
> 
> # grep experimental /etc/apt/sources.list
> deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian ../project/experimental main
> deb http://pkg-gnome.alioth.debian.org/debian experimental main
> # apt-get -t experimental install gnome
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> gnome is already the newest version.
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 104 not upgraded.
> 
> I.e. there is no package called gnome in experimental, hence a reason
> for my origianl question--why isn't there such a package?
> 
> /M
> 
> >On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 11:05 +0200, Magnus Therning wrote:
> >> On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 02:28:47PM -0300, Igor Morgado wrote:
> >> >Good Question.. 
> >> >To solve this problem a have done this:
> >> >
> >> >apt-get install -yuf bug-buddy gnome-control-center dasher eog
> >> >epiphany file-roller gcalctool gconf-editor gdm gedit gnome-applets
> >> >gnome-games gnome-icon-theme gnome-keyring gnome-mag gnome-media
> >> >gnomemeeting gnome-nettool gnome-panel gnome-session
> >> >gnome-system-monitor gnome-system-tools gnome-terminal gnome-themes
> >> >gnome-utils gnome-volume-manager gnopernicus gok gpdf gucharmap
> >> >metacity nautilus nautilus-cd-burner nautilus-media scrollkeeper yelp
> >> >zenity gnome-netstatus-applet libgnome-speech3 totem-gstreamer
> >> >gstreamer-misc gstreamer-player gstreamer-plugins gstreamer-tools
> >> >gtk-engines-begtk gtk-engines-eazel gtk-engines-geramik
> >> >gtk-engines-geramik-data gtk-engines-icegradient
> >> >gtk-engines-industrial gtk-engines-lighthouseblue gtk-engines-mac2
> >> >gtk-engines-metal gtk-engines-mist gtk-engines-notif
> >> >gtk-engines-pixmap gtk-engines-qtpixmap gtk-engines-raleigh
> >> >gtk-engines-redmond95 gtk-engines-smooth gtk-engines-thingeramik
> >> >gtk-engines-thingeramik-data gtk-engines-thinice
> >> >gtk-engines-xenophilia gstreamer0.8-esd rpm esound-clients ntp
> >> >gnome-themes-extras gok-doc gstreamer-player-nautilus
> >> >libqt3c102-mt-psql libqt3c102-mt-mysql libqt3c102-mt-odbc sidplay-base
> >> >xsidplay mpg321 sharutils lzop gnome2-user-guide gstreamer0.8-plugins
> >> >libatk1.0-data dvd+rw-tools gstreamer0.8-dvd alien -t experimental
> >> 
> >> This sure is a long list of packages. I tried using 'aptitude' to avoid
> >> it, but instead it seems that the gnome package in Sid (version 59 I
> >> believe) depends on specific versions of packages ('=' is used instead
> >> of '=<', maybe for good reasons) and a recent upgrade from experimental
> >> removed my 'gnome' package. Since I mix usage of 'apt-get' 'aptitude'
> >> and 'debfoster' (which might be stupid) I immediately ended up in a
> >> situation where 'debfoster' all of a sudden saw a lot of packages that
> >> had been orphaned. I opted for 'apt-get install gnome' and a few of the
> >> Gnome2.8 packages were removed :( I'd really like to eat the cake and
> >> keep it too.
> >> 
> >> /M
> >> 
> >> >
> >> >On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:16:09 +0200, Magnus Therning <magnus@therning.org> wrote:
> >> >> This might be a silly question, but why isn't there a meta-package for
> >> >> gnome in experimental?
> >> >> 
> >> >> (The only reason I could think of was that it might be uninstallable too
> >> >> often to be useful due to frequent updates of the packages. But why does
> >> >> it work in unstable then?)
> >> >> 
> >> >> /M
> >> >> 
> >> >> --
> >> >> Magnus Therning                    (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4)
> >> >> magnus@therning.org
> >> >> http://magnus.therning.org/
> >> >> 
> >> >> Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the
> >> >> ark; professionals built the Titanic.
> >> >>      -- Anonymous
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
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