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Re: New dependences in gnome-core, might be better in gnome?



On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 10:13:06AM -0400, Charles Voelger wrote:
> > Although these might be all useful packages, in my humble an personal
> > opinion some of them exceed the purpose of gnome-core dependencies. 
> I find the gnome-core / gnome issue to be very confusing from a users
> perspective and of course have my own two cents to throw in.

The current rule is:

gnome-core: all modules included in the upstream GNOME Desktop release.
gnome: random extra stuff, in general.

Both Christian and I dislike the new gnomemeeting dependency in
particular, because it depends on lots of libraries and I'm sure the
amount of Debian GNOME users that actually use Gnomemeeting or even own
a webcam is a small percentage.

> maybe there could be a better setup like so:
> 
> Package         Contents
> -------         --------
> gnome-core      any essential GNOME related libraries etc... 
> gnome-desktop   all the apps that are actually part of the GNOME desktop
> gnome-apps      other apps that are not in the desktop release
> gnome           all three above.

What I had proposed to Christian was creating "gnome-office" (#178536)
and "gnome-fifth-toe" packages. Given the amount of concern the new deps
is causing on users, I think we need to make some decision to move parts
of gnome-core to gnome. I'll see if Christian and I can come with a way
of deciding what could go into gnome-core and what shouldn't.

> also isn't it a bit arbitrary that there are plenty of other gnome
> related packages that don't make 'gnome'' or 'gnome-core' - one of my
> biggest problems with running debian on my desktops is finding packages
> that fit my needs (ie do I use foomatic-gui or gnome-cups-manager or
> just plain cupsys to set up printers?) that may be a dumb question to
> some, but I just discovered the "gnome-cups-manager" and "foomatic-gui"
> packages a few days ago :)

Well, yeah. There's a lot of room for improvement here.

> and while we are at it, can someone tell me the difference between
> "abiword' and "abiword-gnome" ?

abiword is a gtk 2.0 only app. Abiword-gnome has GNOME support
(including menu items, bonobo integration, etc).

Jordi
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