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Re: Can someone provide a sensible plan for GNOME in Debian, please? [Was: Bug#158165]



Caveat emptor: I'm not a GNOME person, not even a GNOME user, but I'd
like to understand the issue here.

>> Jeff Waugh <jdub@perkypants.org> writes:

 >      - should not require piecemeal installation of GNOME 2.x Desktop
 >        components such as Sawfish and gnome-terminal (they will not
 >        interoperate correctly - the G2D components are an all-or-nothing
 >        upgrade)

 What does "G2D components" mean in this context and why is it an
 all-or-nothing upgrade.  On the archives of debian-ctte I saw Ian
 asking this very question but last time I checked there wasn't an
 answer.

 >      - must not involve removal of basic GTK+/GNOME libraries, or gnomecc,
 >        as GTK+/GNOME 1.x software relies on these

 AFAIUI, noone has considered removing libraries.  The way I read
 Raphael's jest, he meant removing applications -- which for some reason
 or another people seem to be fondly attached to.

 >      - suggested that libgconf1 is patched to launch gconfd-2 (as in Red
 >        Hat), and all GNOME 1.x packages change dependencies to gconf2,
 >        whilst keeping library dependency the same... this should definitely
 >        be done for sarge (this means that there will be no interoperability
 >        issues between 1.x and 2.x desktop components and applications wrt
 >        gconfd)

 Hmm... something smells fishy there.  If libgconf1 can work without
 trouble with gconfd-2, why does gconfd-2 exist at all?  I mean, why
 isn't it just an upgrade for gconfd (in the "take one binary, replace
 it with another, keep the name" sense)?

 > Despite Christian's criticisms, I'm not here to troll. I'm here to
 > help you guys make Debian's GNOME as good as it can be. If you need
 > information from upstream, or help with issues during the migration,
 > I'm right here.

 Thank you.

-- 
Marcelo             | Dhblah sidled closer. This was not hard. Dhblah sidled
mmagallo@debian.org | everywhere. *Crabs* thought he walked sideways.
                    |         -- (Terry Pratchett, Small Gods)



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