On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 10:45:48PM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote: > I really don't like how GNOME 2 can be configured and lost > functionalities. Right now I don't have GNOME 2 installed on my > machine for the following reasons : > > No more panel menu editing. This didn't actually work right anyway. =/ Actually, I can add things to the menu, but I cannot delete them. Here's how to add something to the menu: nautilus "applications:" (typed from cmdline, brings up a window with the menu in it..) Add whatever you like in here, files or folders. Attempt to trash one of them though and nothing happens. Note, adding the option of a delete which bypasses the trash doesn't work either. I'm using an old version of nautilus (1.1.19 still) because nautilus2 was reported to not work at all because of the gnome-vfs problem. If someone has nautilus2 working properly, please report whether or not this works for you or not.. =) I'd delete it by hand, but I have NFI where the file was actually saved to. > No more favorites menu. Can be fixed, same caveats apply as above. > The panel isn't dynamically resized. This is not a bug, IMO. It was damned annoying that the panel did odd things like that. I don't know if there's a good solution to this for people who depend on the feature - I'm just glad it's gone, for my part. > Sawfish can be configured as I want in 1.4 Most of the things that were removed are still in the source code, but disabled. You can put them back, though you'll no longer be using the official sawfish. Requires a little lisp hacking. > A lot of applets has been removed. No contest - most of them haven't been ported yet. Some of them are deemed no longer useful (screenshooter), and some features of applets which were ported are now missing with no equivalent to be found, such as the window list icon which used to be on the pager. This last _should_ be considered an important usability issue given that the alternatives take up an awful lot os screen real-estate for those of us who don't have much to spare, and at least one of the two window managers for Gnome2, metacity, doesn't have any way other than the tasklist to restore an iconized window, oops! I don't recall seeing it in sawfish2 either, but I only used it about ten minutes before concluding the missing features were going to take too much time for me to find and put back (I don't speak lisp natively), so I decided to hold off until I could figure out exactly what was missing, get those features back, and report a coherent bug as to what's missing and why it's important. (This will not be good enough for some I'm sure, but those people will dismiss the bug because it has my name on it..) > Some binaries has been removed from gnome-utils. I know stripchart was. Gnotes too maybe? Yeah, I think gnotes was in gnome-utils.. If anyone else misses it (I missed its icon, which I use for bringing up my todo list in a vim window), I suspect I could probably port the thing pretty quickly, or even write a fresh thingy to replace it which might even be more useful. =) I have some ideas for a postit note applet which I've not seen implemented in one before, and it might be worthwhile to actually implement them after all, if anyone's actually interested in the thing. (I'd use it if I wrote it, but if I were going to write it for just me, I'd not bother - I have a .notes file I keep such things in right now..) > May be some features above are bugs. Maybe some above bugs are features, too. ;) Several of the things you've noted I believe to need fixes though, and hope that they're given them. I suspect things like menu editing are possibly just not used or documented very well. I find it hard to believe that it is an accident that I actually found the applications: URI or that I was able to add to it. Note, I was also able to add gconf-editor to preferences: where IMO it belongs. This was IMO just cool, because it gave me back one icon worth of space on my panel without making the registry ed--er, I mean, advanced preferences tool--difficult to get at. Said more simply, Gnome2 really just needs some polish and a few bugfixes, most of the underlying stuff is there and mostly stable, Debian package synchronisation issues notwithstanding. -- Joseph Carter <knghtbrd@bluecherry.net> Have chainsaw will travel <doogie> Debian - All the power, without the silly hat.
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