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Re: Gnome mini-freeze...



I've CC'd the debian-mentors list in hopes that some NMs or
candidate NMs will volunteer. I offer to sponsor any uploads.

I've also CC'd the maintainers of the out-of-date packages.

On Sun, 8 Apr 2001 01:28:38 +0000 (UTC),
aj@azure.humbug.org.au (Anthony Towns) said:

    > It looks like GNOME 1.4 is just about able to go into woody

Not quite.

GNOME 1.4 Packages missing from unstable
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ghex
gnome-user-docs
panelmm

GNOME Packages not up to 1.4 in unstable
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
bug-buddy
gdm
ggv [1] *
glade*
gnome-guile*
gnome-pim
gnome-print
gnome-python*
gtop
imlib
scrollkeeper

GNOME Fifth-toe apps missing from unstable
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
anjuta
atomix
firestarter
fpm**
galeon
gfax
gnome-lokkit
googlizer
radioactive
toutdoux**

GNOME Fifth-toe apps not up to 1.4 in unstable
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
abiword*
balsa
gedit
gnumeric*


[1] Additionally, this one has a different name than upstream for
    no obvious reason.

*   denotes packages i'd like to adopt
**  denotes packages i've already filed an ITP for

Furthermore, task-gnome-desktop is totally bogus. I think we need
to toss out all the task-gnome-* packages. They shouldn't be task
packages anyway. I propose the following meta-packages:

gnome-desktop - Pulls in GNOME core desktop functionality
gnome-applications - Pulls in (most) GNOME Fifth-toe apps
gnome-network - Pulls in network-related GNOME apps (from GNOME
                *and* Fifth-toe)
gnome-games[1] - Pulls in all GNOME games
gnome-dev - Pulls in all GNOME development packages

[1] - I see this one already exists. It should be changed to
      Depend on all GNOME games, not just the ones from the
      gnome-games source package.

That's 28 packages that need to be uploaded (plus the
meta-packages). Looks like a lot of work, but i think we can do
it. I think we should focus on getting GNOME up-to-date first;
most of the Fifth-toe apps aren't that important.

Unfortunately, there is another problem which may be even bigger,
and that is the gettext problem Christian brought up. I don't
know what we're going to have to do here. I doubt we can expect
upstream to resolve the issue anytime soon.

If it's decided that NMUs are appropriate, i can get all these
done in a day, if necessary (i'm lucky enough to be paid to work
on Debian).

One last thing. It's all too common to see people using Ximian
GNOME on Debian. As we all know, the Ximian packages are less
than cooperative. I think it would be nice to setup an apt source
containing all of GNOME 1.4 built for potato. I realize that
keeping such a beast up-to-date is non-trivial, so i volunteer to
do all the work.

How is this different from Ximian GNOME? Because these aren't
third-part packages that don't play nice with Debian. They *are*
Debian packages, simply recompiled for the current stable
release.

OK, i'm bracing for flames now :).

-- 
Eric Gillespie, Jr.
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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by
 those who have not got it."
 --George Bernard Shaw



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