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Re: Debian and GNOME, partnership with Helixcode?



[Disclaimer: I am an avid KDE user though not (yet) a developer]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote:

> 
> 	I assisted today to a conference by Miguel de Icaza here in Madrid,
> it seems he is running a new business namde Helixcode
> (http://www.helixcode.com) which will be working for GNOME. In the
> conference he said that the GNOME developers do not want to make debian
> packages because "they are too difficult".

Is Miguel unlucky in the kind of press he gets or just a walking FUD
machine?  Certainly to this observer he seems to make more
uninformed/inflammatory remarks than your average free software
personality.

> 2.- Maybe Debian could do something in order to make easier for GNOME
> developers to build Debian packages... where is really the barrier for
> making Debian packages?
> 

The KDE packages in CVS contain Debian directories.  They are not always
perfect but allow anyone tracking KDE development to build packages.  So
for me it doesn't matter that KDE snapshots aren't available directly from
Debian.  I can make my own.

That's all that needs to be done with Gnome.  

> 3.- Debian possibly needs more promotion regarding people in Helix, thy seem
> to be working with RedHat and making their own packages instead of using
> Debian and the packages already available! 
> 

There seems to be a lack of communication.  Either the Debian packagers
are not contributing their work upstream or the Gnome hackers are refusing
to take it.  I'm sure neither group really wants that.

> 	How about talking with Helix to become a Helix DesktopPartner? (see 
> http://www.helixcode.com/desktop/partners.php3)
> 

Bad idea.  Individual developers can and probably should work with Helix
etc. but Debian as a project should not take a stand for or against any
desktop until one clearly emerges as the winner.  (and when and if it
does, it will be KDE ha ha.)

Btw Why is this on private?

-- 
Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar@debian.org>


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