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Bug#231538: *sigh*



At Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:46:25 +0200,
Martin Schulze wrote:
> GOTO Masanori wrote:
> > > That would only help mips.
> > > 
> > > I wonder what a mips machine would need with an i486 emulator.
> > > 
> > > For IA-32 we would have to patch 2.4.18, but we cannot properly
> > > update those packages in woody without people losing their
> > > modules (would hurt a bit on laptops...).  So that's a no-go.
> > 
> > So you don't have any intenstion to install new 2.4 kernel with
> > i486 emulation patch.
> 
> Exactly, since this would harm all notebook users.
> 
> > > Hence, the upgrade directory for real 80386 machines.
> > 
> > What does it mean?
> 
> I thought that I've explained this already:
> 
> I have another solution to propose: Provide an upgrade-for-real-i386
> directory, including a README and kernel packages to install before
> upgrading to sarge.  We've done a similar thing from bo->potato or
> something.
> 
> This will require coordination with the release manager and the
> ftpmasters to provide dists/sarge/main/upgrade-i386 which should
> contain the kernel packages and a readme file.

That's nice solution if it's acceptable.

> > If there is no plan to support upgrade-path for i386 machines, then I
> 
> Nobody said that there is no plan to support an upgrade-path for i386
> machines.  We just cannot simply replace the kernel in the stable
> distribution anymore due to fucked up dependencies and kernel
> vulnerabilities.
> 
> > put the message "Use woody-proposed-updates 2.4.24 kernel" at
> > libc6.preinst for 80386 machine.  Then, we don't need to change the
> > current woody kernels.  I think it's the simplest fix.  Is it OK?
> 
> No.  Packages will eventually vanish from the proposed-updates
> directory.  We'll need an upgrade-i386 directory as we've had a couple
> of releases before.

Ah, I understand why my proposal is not good.  Martin, thanks for
pointing it out.

So... I don't add "use woody-proposed-updates" message into
libc6.preinst, I keep them as the current one.  I think Bug#231538 can
be closed when 2.3.2.ds1-12 is released.  But the current thread is
useful for keeping discussing to make dists/sarge/main/upgrade-i386
for the near future sarge release.  I would clone this bug and
reassign it to ftp.debian.org or ftp-master.  Nathanael, OK?

Regards,
-- gotom




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