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Bug#235759: libc6: iconv's replacement for "German quotes in UTF-8" to latin1



At Fri, 12 Mar 2004 18:43:09 +0100,
Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> > I wonder this proposal is not well inspected.  I would like to reject
> > both bugzilla and BTS unless you provide more information.
> 
> This proposal is the outcome of a discussion on the german debian
> list, so it *is* well inspected. As I understand your arguing,
> upstream is "using" a different convention. But please also consider
> the non-neglible fraction of people using a system with german locale --
> which would like to have output which is both as little confusing as
> possible and which conserves space.
> 
> If you have other reason for not accepting this proposal, then please
> discuss this with us (I CC'ed the german debian list) so we can
> evaluate the reasons together.

Your first argument is:

> quote). This is quite confusing - take this as an example:
> $ cp -v .bashrc /tmp/
> ,,.bashrc" -> ,,/tmp/.bashrc"

So I wrote in previous mail:

> So, default ` ' pair will become problematic under LANG=C, don't you?

> W3c example which uses ` ,, '.
> 
> 	http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/CR-CSS21-20040225/generate.html

Your point is standing on /bin/cp issue (it seems being confusable
when using only /bin/cp, and I said it's also confusable under LANG=C
so I think you should use original ` ') and French << and German ,, is
handled as same in Germany.  But I think it seems it's not quite
different character and it's not appropriate for transliteration
conversion.  Well I don't know German practice, so I would like to
know more reasons.  At least I presented w3c example - is this example
inappropriate for German users?

(BTW, Japanese /bin/cp uses ` ' instead of 「 」, and no user
complained)

Regards,
-- gotom



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