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Re: LinuxTag


I'm writing only one reply in order to make the thread easier to read.

Thimo Neubauer wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 09:08:55AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> > Sorry to disturb you, folks, but would you mind, stopping the
> > flamebait and bogus posting and actually going back to *organizing*
> > and *maintaining* our presence at LinuxTag this year?  It's only one
> > month left and many questions are still unanswered.
> One of the most important questions being: what should the b ooth look
> like: Joey, can we get a plan of the booth? Well, at least the size of
> it so that we can plan a bit on what to place where?

Since I don't have a plan, I can't provide one.  If you force me to
get one, it'll be a 3x3 qm booth, with one open side (because that's
the only thing I can guarantee at the moment).

It's working the other way around to get the most use of space for all
projects.  People are exchanging ideas and tell me what they plan to
demonstrate, how they plan to use the booth etc.  They normally have
an idea of how much space they need, because that's implied by the
ideas anyway.  At a late stage (1-2 weeks before the exhibition
starts), I'm assigning booth space and coordinates.

If I should make booth reservations earlier, I could only give out
small booths for not being unfair against other projects who may need
the space more desperatly than the project in question.

> I imagine the following for the booth:
> - several posters on the wall pointing out great features. I'll
>   personally create one about "Europe's fastest cluster running
>   Debian". More ideas are:
>    + list of all woody-architectures with little images of computers
>    + the usual world-map
>    + "Debian is the only disto made by volunteers, ... , n-thousand
>    packages, ... blah, ... open BTS, ...". A poster like this should
>    be placed at the front of the booth so that the visitors can
>    quickly inform themselves.

Very good.

Check <http://cvs.infodrom.org/goodies/posters/?cvsroot=debian> for
the source of some existing posters.

> - normally about 3 persons manning the booth, up to 6 in the rush hour
>   (just invented the numbers to get a discussion going). I fear that
>   we should assign shifts because otherwise we'll just crowd up as
>   usual... and shifts would help to always have certain specialists of
>   ours around (like, e.g. always a networking guru in the booth).

Very good!

>   I think that the booth is mainly for those who don't know Debian yet
>   and/or aren't experienced enough to cope with simple problems. Of
>   course, we've got a whole lot of fans who just want to talk some
>   tech on LinuxTag. IMO it would be perfect if we got some place
>   (maybe a small room somewhere?) where could set up a coffee machine
>   and keep the professional discussions there. Some place where all
>   DDs can hang around if there are enough persons in the booth and
>   naturally this would be the place for the techie-visitor to ask
>   freaky questions. Opinions?

Currently this will have to be moved to a foyer or something, since I
don't believe that we can get another spare room.  Also, there's a
~80m distance between the exhibition and rooms for talks and workshops.

> > If people don't step forward and work on certain issues on their own,
> > in a way that will fit well together with the work of others, there
> > will be only a crowd of Debian people somewhere but nothing
> > interesting for people, except a crowd of hackers.
> If I get a booth-plan I'd like to plan the layout; I could also
> collect ideas for a daily booth-schedule if you like the idea. 

The best way to get this done, would be to check what kind of a booth
you'll need and which size it needs to have and just go ahead and plan
the booth.

Michael Bramer wrote:
> >    + the usual world-map
> need we a new map, or can we use the map from last year?

Since our current worldmap is from 1999 and it's now 2002, the current
worldmap is probably somewhat outdated.  In 1999 there were about 500
DD's and we're now at 1000 or something.  So yes, there are some

> we have some old posters... 
> Have someone the source from this old posters? (it was tex ?)

Yes, see the link from above.

I'd like to urge people to use a similar way for creating posters,
since these can be printed and modified quite easily.  Also, if you
create posters, I may get a way to print them, but only if they're
using the fancyposter classe just like the above posters.

> > - normally about 3 persons manning the booth, up to 6 in the rush hour
> >   (just invented the numbers to get a discussion going). I fear that
> >   we should assign shifts because otherwise we'll just crowd up as
> >   usual... and shifts would help to always have certain specialists of
> >   ours around (like, e.g. always a networking guru in the booth).
> I don't now see the crowed problem... See on the list, who is on the
> LT...

You're about to forget that only 10-20% have signed up yet...

> joey: have the LT 2002 a hacking center again?

I don't think so.

> I don't think we get a extra room for debian! 

Probably not.

> > - hopefully one or two tables to sit down when talking with the visitors
> no, please not. We are not a company and we don't make contracts, we
> don't need tables. Tables need some a lot of size of a booth. 

"We don't need tables."  May I count on that?  It'll make booth
planning much easier and cheaper. :)

> Maybe we need some demo point like things (like the KDE booth last year)

Great!  Check pictures from last year.

> we should show debian all the time!

Err...  Did anybody planned to show something different?

> > - one white wall where we can project stuff
> > 
> >   I think that regular and small shows would e quite nice. Maybe once
> >   an hour there could be a _small_ demonstration of about 10 minutes
> >   with questions afterward. That's what I imagined when I offered the
> >   laptop-networking talk... 
> 1.) you talk:
>     can't you make a 'real talk' for the debian day? 

You'll have to distinguish between a different audience.  Attendees at
the Debian Day will most probably be Debian Developers or experienced
Debian users, while visitors at the booth will most probably be
newbies and Debian fans (well, and lots of Debiand developers...)

> 2.) I like shows with a beamer on the booth... 
>     let draw something:
>     ----------------------------------+==== white wall ====+-
>                                                             |
>     -----+                                                  |
>     Moni.|                                                  |
>     and  |                                      ^           |
>     PC   |           +---------+            +---|-----+     |
>          |           | Monitor |            |beamer   |     |
>     -----+           | PC      |            |PC witout|     |
>                      |         |            |Monitor  |     |
>     Someone is all the time on the demopoint with the beamer and talk
>     with visitors and show debian (apt-get, update-menues, all the
>     stuff). All without a programm. 
>     from time to time we can use the beamer for a extra scheduled talks,
>     a installation demo etc. (max 3 per Day ?)
>     Comments?

Sounds good.  However you'll have to ensure three additional things:

 a) The distance between the white wall and the beamer needs to be
    large enough.  I have to admit that I don't have enough experience
    with different beamers to tell you how much space is required in

 b) The space between the beamer and the white wall needs to be free.
    There must be no people between them.  Well, even while this
    sounds logical, former Debian booths at LinuxTag have proven that
    there are a lot of people around.  Please check some pictures[1]
    from last years.

 c) Make sure nobody is able to crash the beamer.



[1] http://linuxtag.openit.de/2001/pictures/public/0800x0600/p7071091-2fb37b.jpg
    There are some pictures on Infodrom as well.

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

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