Re: About restart Emdebian / Emdebain Crush
Hi Nobuhiro, all,
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:41 PM Baurzhan Ismagulov <ibr@radix50.net> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 03:29:35PM +0900, Nobuhiro Iwamatsu wrote:
> > > Are you saying that you want to use your Debian workstation to run something
> > > like buildroot-ng, to create a busybox-based root filesystem for a device?
> > >
> > > Or, are you wanting to create and then run a small-footprint Debian on a
> > > device?
> >
> > I want to do both.
> > I want to create and run a small-footprint Debian on a device.
>
> I agree with Bill, it would be easier to start from scratch. That said, the
> patches from Crush and SLIND could be used as ideas.
>
>
> > > As I recall it, Emdebian Crush ended because multiarch replaced much of it,
> > > and broke the rest of it. This was expected, since Crush was kind of a
> > > workaround for pre-multiarch.
> >
> > About the cross compile environment, as you wrote, it became useless
> > by support of M-A.
> > I understand that there was a small rootfs using busybox and uclibc
> > (This may not have been supported yet.)
> > as another feature of Crush. Is this right?
>
> One footprint-related issue with SLIND were big Perl dependencies. Perl is
> necessary for postinstall scripts. We've used perl-minimal and stripped
> unnecessary dependencies.
>
>
> > > There might be easier ways to get to where you want to be than to bring
> > > Emdebian Crush back from the dead.
> >
> > https://wiki.debian.org/EmdebianCrush
> >
> > Indeed, when I saw this, as you wrote, I thought it would be better to
> > consider another way than to back Crush.
>
> The list is valid if you want to make a generic distribution and do it right.
> It is also the reason why Crush has been abandoned. That said, it's possible to
> bootstrap a minimal system for a specific product in finite amount of time and
> keep improving it. If we would manage to upstream the changes to Debian in form
> of build options turned off by default and set up CI (ideally including the
> cross-build stuff by Helmut & Co.), the effort might be somewhat more
> manageable.
Would ELBE [1] solve your problem?
[1] https://elbe-rfs.org/
Yegor
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