Hi, On Mittwoch, 3. November 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I think we should evaluate the cost and benefits of doing this, and > make a decision based on that knowledge. Right. I thought the benefits were obvious, just like you probably did, when you changed the profile question yesterday, to display the expert options by default. _That_ is a change everybody will notice and will put cognitive strain on everybody, as there are now more options... I havent seen the evalutation for that. And if the evaluation of this is happening right now, I wonder why we dont do the same for the DVD split: just do it and then see how it works out. > What problems and advantages > for the users, administrators, distributors and developers do you see > for the current approach and a splitted approach. Perhaps something > for a wiki page to gather the arguments for and against? combined approach: - useful for people installing both amd64+i386 edu machines - less packages on the DVD, thus different installs for DVD+CD for everyone - CD space issues, thus we install a kernel by default, which can only deal with a single core and 1GiB RAM maximum. splitted DVDs - less useful for people installing amd64, which according to popcon.skolelinux.org are 5% of our users - more packages on the DVD, probably the same installation whether DVD or CD based - 686 kernel on the DVD, supporting multiple CPU cores and more then 1 GiB RAM - amd64 DVD still exists, it's just an extra download for those few who need it. 5% of our users suffer a bit, for 95% having real benefits. To me it is+was obvious that the benefits outweight the costs. Plus: AMD64 is a great architecture, but I fear that in real world school scenarios i386 is most often installed instead+exclusivly, because it makes using certain very common nonfree tools much easier: adobe flash, googleearth and icaclient are all only available for i386. So every school I know just ignores amd64 and uses i386. Having a fully contained i386 DVD would be the most useful for those. cheers, Holger
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