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Re: Bug#488386: please provide an udeb



Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl> writes:

> On Saturday 28 June 2008, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> On Saturday 28 June 2008 16:55, Frans Pop wrote:
>> > A udeb was recently removed.
>>
>> Do you mean a year ago or was it recently removed again?
>
> Yes, looks like that was about a year ago (even if the changelog does not 
> mention it).
>
>> > In our opinion there should be no reason why
>> > the _installer_ needs to be aware it's installing to a laptop or not.
>>
>> I tried to explain that in the bug report. We (Debian Edu) use it to
>> modify the profile which gets installed...
>
> Sorry, but that is Greek to me. What is a profile, what does it do? 
> How/why exactly does it need to be different for a laptop than for a 
> desktop?
>
>> Also, Otavio, the laptop-detect maintainer stated in 426608 that he
>> wouldnt have a problem to reintroduce the udeb.
>
> So, why hasn't this been a problem for debian-edu in the past year? Why 
> does this suddenly need to happen when Lenny is about to be frozen?
>
> Also, adding a udeb is not up to Otavio as laptop-detect maintainer. Any 
> new udeb needs to be approved by the D-I team and thus discussed on the 
> debian-boot list.

I don't object to add it back (if we find a suitable reason) however
to it to be useful we need to add more acpi moduels on d-i otherwise
laptop-detect isn't very accurate.

This was broght up a year ago and noone from Debian-EDU has discussed
it before. 

>> > Any reason you cannot just chroot into /target and run laptop-detect
>> > there?
>>
>> Because /target is not set up, when we need it.
>
> OK, that could be a valid reason. But you've not yet explained why you 
> need it _before_ /target is set up.

I also fail to understand it.

>> > You'll have to provide a much better/clearer use-case scenario before
>> > we'll allow a udeb to be reintroduced.
>>
>> I hope I did :)
>
> Not really, or at least, not yet in sufficient detail to satisfy me 
> personally.

Neither me.

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