Re: Bug#488386: please provide an udeb
Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl> writes:
> On Saturday 28 June 2008, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> On Saturday 28 June 2008 16:55, Frans Pop wrote:
>> > A udeb was recently removed.
>>
>> Do you mean a year ago or was it recently removed again?
>
> Yes, looks like that was about a year ago (even if the changelog does not
> mention it).
>
>> > In our opinion there should be no reason why
>> > the _installer_ needs to be aware it's installing to a laptop or not.
>>
>> I tried to explain that in the bug report. We (Debian Edu) use it to
>> modify the profile which gets installed...
>
> Sorry, but that is Greek to me. What is a profile, what does it do?
> How/why exactly does it need to be different for a laptop than for a
> desktop?
>
>> Also, Otavio, the laptop-detect maintainer stated in 426608 that he
>> wouldnt have a problem to reintroduce the udeb.
>
> So, why hasn't this been a problem for debian-edu in the past year? Why
> does this suddenly need to happen when Lenny is about to be frozen?
>
> Also, adding a udeb is not up to Otavio as laptop-detect maintainer. Any
> new udeb needs to be approved by the D-I team and thus discussed on the
> debian-boot list.
I don't object to add it back (if we find a suitable reason) however
to it to be useful we need to add more acpi moduels on d-i otherwise
laptop-detect isn't very accurate.
This was broght up a year ago and noone from Debian-EDU has discussed
it before.
>> > Any reason you cannot just chroot into /target and run laptop-detect
>> > there?
>>
>> Because /target is not set up, when we need it.
>
> OK, that could be a valid reason. But you've not yet explained why you
> need it _before_ /target is set up.
I also fail to understand it.
>> > You'll have to provide a much better/clearer use-case scenario before
>> > we'll allow a udeb to be reintroduced.
>>
>> I hope I did :)
>
> Not really, or at least, not yet in sufficient detail to satisfy me
> personally.
Neither me.
--
O T A V I O S A L V A D O R
---------------------------------------------
E-mail: otavio@debian.org UIN: 5906116
GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855
Home Page: http://otavio.ossystems.com.br
---------------------------------------------
"Microsoft sells you Windows ... Linux gives
you the whole house."
Reply to: