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Re: Bug#488386: please provide an udeb



On Saturday 28 June 2008, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Saturday 28 June 2008 16:55, Frans Pop wrote:
> > A udeb was recently removed.
>
> Do you mean a year ago or was it recently removed again?

Yes, looks like that was about a year ago (even if the changelog does not 
mention it).

> > In our opinion there should be no reason why
> > the _installer_ needs to be aware it's installing to a laptop or not.
>
> I tried to explain that in the bug report. We (Debian Edu) use it to
> modify the profile which gets installed...

Sorry, but that is Greek to me. What is a profile, what does it do? 
How/why exactly does it need to be different for a laptop than for a 
desktop?

> Also, Otavio, the laptop-detect maintainer stated in 426608 that he
> wouldnt have a problem to reintroduce the udeb.

So, why hasn't this been a problem for debian-edu in the past year? Why 
does this suddenly need to happen when Lenny is about to be frozen?

Also, adding a udeb is not up to Otavio as laptop-detect maintainer. Any 
new udeb needs to be approved by the D-I team and thus discussed on the 
debian-boot list.

> > Any reason you cannot just chroot into /target and run laptop-detect
> > there?
>
> Because /target is not set up, when we need it.

OK, that could be a valid reason. But you've not yet explained why you 
need it _before_ /target is set up.

> > You'll have to provide a much better/clearer use-case scenario before
> > we'll allow a udeb to be reintroduced.
>
> I hope I did :)

Not really, or at least, not yet in sufficient detail to satisfy me 
personally.


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