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Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg



Hi Luca,

On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 01:56:53AM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> On Mon, 8 May 2023 at 19:06, Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> wrote:
> > It's designed to stop as-yet-unknown problems happening, too.
> 
> Well, sure, but we've been at this for years, any such problems should
> really be known by now. This is with Bookworm as it stands of course,
> when we go in and make more changes then we obviously have to be
> careful, but that's the entire reason this thread exists and is still
> going on.

This actually feels rather worrying to me. On one hand, you say that
problems should be know. On the other hand, you proposed a simple
transition with quite a number of problems that you apparently didn't
see coming. Even relatively simple mechanisms, such as just repacking
all the .debs to ship files in their canonical location and then trying
to install them, revealed a dpkg unpack error in zutils. This
combination of claiming that problems should be known while at the same
time apparently not knowing them makes me uneasy to move forward here.

So while I want to see the moratorium lifted, it all makes a lot more
sense to me given what we've seen in this thread. The worst of outcomes
I see here is the one where we cause problems that don't have a good
solution as any way forward would break someone's use case (with
someone's use case often being smooth upgrades in one way or another).
It's those where we cannot move forward nor revert.

Helmut


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