hi jonathan, On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 03:45:47PM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > I agree with this. In the past it seemed like you were mostly > interested in hearing from people with the ability to commit changes, no, i wouldn't say so. however, there is/was a fairly strict intersection of those reviewing c code and those committing c code, given that with few exceptions it has basically been one person in this project. i did ask for one specific change to be committed, mostly as a sign of good faith and to make my life easier. this was code not directly related to the feature and should have been entirely non-controversial (moving some common functions out of the problematic help.c file). if this change isn't done, rebasing the rest of the patches is a major PITA as they depend on these functions, and unit tests for the code (also requested by the maintainer) are impossible. the fact that this was not done, along with the lack of any further responses to my follow-up questions (in february) was taken by me as a sign that the maintainer isn't too interested in pursuing things further, at least at this point. given the amount of work i've already invested into this (60-80 hours would be a conservative estimate), and this apparent lack of interest, you'll have to excuse me if i come off as a bit... "meh" about it, but i'm not exactly motivated to spend more of my time on it. > so I quieted down. Really I think it would be better to treat > development and deployment of that code as separate steps: i.e., first > work together to get the design right and ask people to try it out > (maybe in Debian experimental, maybe as an unofficial thing) and only > once there has been some success merge it to sid. the "design" stuff was, at least in broad strokes, worked out for some time based on earlier discussions. in more specific terms the current patches seem to be lost in a mire of implementation details and aesthetic minutae, and discussion died off somewhere in the process of seperating the two. i should add that don't consider these patches to be written in stone and there have indeed been a few iterations of them, but in order for progress to be made there needs to be a discussion, and in order for there to be a discussion there needs to be somone on both ends of teh tubez willing to spend some time on this. sean
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