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Bug#594135: marked as done (release-notes: please tell people to upgrade "locales" before dist-upgrade)

Your message dated Tue, 4 Jan 2011 21:27:45 +0900
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has caused the Debian Bug report #594135,
regarding release-notes: please tell people to upgrade "locales" before dist-upgrade
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Package: release-notes
Severity: normal

If you straight-on run an upgrade that includes "locales", they will be
unpacked/deconfigured early on and then won't get reconfigured until near
the end of the upgrade.  This currently causes all locale and charset
support to be inoperative.

This results in few actual problems (postgresql won't start, squirrelmail
will mangle encodings in mails unless restarted, possibly others), but it
produces MASSIVE amounts of spam that hide important messages during the
upgrade, the explanation of how to proceed with udev being the most
important one.  For example, on a serial console (80x25, no scrollback), you
get only two last lines of the udev message.

Not to mention that all debconf translations you painstakingly added all go
to hell.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (150, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.35-trunk-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

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Hi,

On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 12:43:19AM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 23:54:40 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
...
> The spam problem should be reduced now that perl and man-db stop
> complaining about missing locales if run from dpkg.  

Yes.

> I guess the missing
> translations issue remains, though I'm hesitant to add one more step to
> the upgrade process...  

I understand your hesitation.

By the way, we already use very explicit and strong statements in
release note.  (We are not making UTF-8 as a main prerequisite for
upgrade but clearly indicated UTF-8 is good idea and should be used.)

http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/i386/release-notes/ap-old-stuff.en.html#switch-utf8

So we should think this request is already addressed at the right level,
i.e., Appendix.  We are telling people :-)

Let me close this bug.

Osamu

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