Re: DDP project on Alioth
Just answering to main hints, I have not time in this moment for details.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 09:35:57AM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 12:21:58AM +0100, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote:
> > After discussion with Pierre Machard aka migus on IRC, I created a new
> > project 'ddp' on alioth in order to restore by trusted snapshots
> > the no more available documentation repository.
>
> Have you talked with Adam or Joy about this? Last time I looked _they_ were
> the ones that should take this decission.
>
They are both PMs for the project currently. They are probably too busy with
other tasks currently to deal with the restoration of DDP.
I saw multiple queries about the status of the rep on IRC, this list and
other ones. That's just a way to have things moving on.
> > The plan is that describe in
> >
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-doc/2003/debian-doc-200312/msg00017.html
>
> That plan has not been approved by all DDP members.
>
Is there any formal way for having that approvation? Creating the
repository is just a starting point not the final goal, anyway.
BTW, I saw no objections to the plan in the last couple of months:
that message is dated 12/9 and there is very few activity
in this list since the intrusion days. Maybe, nobody cares enough.
> >
> > In the meantime me and mingus will check archive contents. Helpers
> > are welcome.
>
> I already asked for this and it should have been done _before_ moving the
> DDP project for Alioth. I could only check the latest HEAD branch against
> several HEAD copies (mine included) and all changes looked ok to me, but
> was not able to review all the history for the scripts.
>
I cannot see a better solution to have something working again.
> If you check the contents of utils/ (which I haven't) and manuals.sgml
> scripts history then we could contact debian-admin to reenable the CVSROOT
> at gluck:/home/oldgluck/org/cvs.debian.org/cvs/debian-doc.
>
I have both them in my checkouts.
>
> > I also added some obviuos users to the project, such as joy and aph.
> > If a trustable committers list can be provided to us, it would be fine.
>
> That would be all the list of 'users' in the old CVSRoot. You could also
> gather one based on the history of changes of all the documents. BTW, have
> you contacted the translation teams at all?
>
Not yet.
> If you were interested in restoring the DDP service it should have been
> restored _first_ on gluck, after all the contents have been verified, once
> done, it could have been moved to alioth, but after contacting all the
> parties. This "now it's done" approach, is not the way to do it.
>
I know. Again, theory and practice are different things. I'm just seeing
that things are stopped since a couple of months. If someone could help,
why not?
> Do you have a clear plan on how to have gluck regenerate all the
> documentation in HTML format based on the Alioth sources? Have
> you discussed this with debian-admin@?
>
Not yet. But it's technically possible.
> Also notice that for some users of the DDP, including myself, the history
> is as important as the documents themselves. Please preserve it too.
>
> Note that I'm not particuarly against moving the DDP to Alioth, it's just
> that I don't believe it is a decission to be taken lightly, and should be
> clear on all fronts, that's why I'm hinting to some of the steps you
> have missed. Granted, they should all have been done by now by other
> DDP members (it's almost february) but fixing RC bugs has been a higher
> priority (for me at least).
>
--
Francesco P. Lovergine
Reply to: