On Jan 25, Wookey <wookey@wookware.org> wrote: > Luca is quite right here. Ultimately this can only be fixed by these > ecosystems understanding that software in these languages cannot be > sensibly used in distributions until they support modularity and > stability. The rust people make the excuse that they are 'too new' to > define a stable ABI. That was fair enough for a while, but it's > getting to be quite a thin excuse at this point. I think the real The problem here is that many of these upstream developers actually see this as a feature: they are happy to not have "old versions" of their software shipped by distributions, because this way they can tell users to just download the latest pre-built binaries from github or an appimage and not care about supporting older releases. And while this somehow often works for stand-alone desktop or web applications, it is hell for daemons or other system services which need integration with the OS. -- ciao, Marco
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