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Re: Firmware - what are we going to do about it?



On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 05:53:03PM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> > > > > I have an idea for an extra option:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 6. Put the closed source firmware somewhere in the Debian images, but never
> > > > > install closed source firmware by default. "No" should be the default.
> > > > That's the option 3 more or less.
> > > 
> > > Option 3 says to publish two sets of images.
> > > 
> > > ----
> > > 3. We could stop pretending that the non-free images are unofficial, and
> > > maybe move them alongside the normal free images so they're published
> > > together. This would make them easier to find for people that need them, but
> > > is likely to cause users to question why we still make any images without
> > > firmware if they're otherwise identical.
> > > ----
> > If you want to drop the non-firmware image then it's the option 4 more or
> > less.
> 
> I see it more like option 5, with the difference that no closed source
> firmware or repository will be installed by default. With the non-free ISO
> this is the case.
> 
> For people who don't like closed source firmware, it gives the option not to
> install some firmware. E.g.: do I need that bluetooth adapter?
As I said, this is about d-i questions and defaults more than it's about
ISO choices and content.

> And we stay a possibility for FSF-people.
FSF people condemned Debian long ago:
https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html#Debian

> Most SSD devices also have firmware, do you update that firmware?
Sure.

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