Am 14.03.22 um 16:28 schrieb Colin Watson:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 09:29:56AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:On Sun, 2022-03-13 at 18:02 +0100, Christian Kastner wrote:I don't think that's a very constructive line of argument. As a former maintainer, it was evident that user crontabs (crontab -e) are still very popular, as are some other perhaps niche features, and I've never had the impression that anti-systemd has anything to do with it.As a systemd user who has a large user crontab I have to agree. I'd like to migrate to systemd timers, but there are a few blockers:Also systemd timers require a session to be running, so as I understand it you have to configure lingering (loginctl enable-linger) for users who want to use per-user timers
I'd agree here. user crontabs are such a niche case where systemd's own facilities don't provide a direct replacement.
That said, my main point was about packages shipping cron files.As a distro we'd benefit if those shipped native systemd timers (instead or in addition). I don't think we have any packages in the archive that make direct use of user crontabs?
If all packages shipped native systemd timers I could envision that at some point it would make sense to stop installing cron by default and users that need or want user crontab can just run apt install cron.
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