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Re: inconsistent mailgraph settings



Hi Vincent,

On 20.08.21 16:50, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
My bug report https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=989734
has been closed again, with no explanations.

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=989734;msg=12 claims that the bug was closed via https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=989734;msg=10 . However I can't see why the latter mentioned message would close the bugreport. Can anybody shed some light on this?

Either way: try to stay calm, try keeping a *cooperative* conversation with the maintainer. Your argument being right or not right won't guarantee you that you'll have your way. You need to work with the maintainer to get your issue resolved in a way that's acceptable for both of you. So try not to escalate things, try to keep your urges in check.

I can't see the maintainer refusing to work with you: it just seems that it is unclear why mailgraph wouldn't start automatically after the upgrade. Remember that the maintainer doesn't own anything to you. He doesn't *have* to fix anything.

In particular it *seems* to work for him and he doesn't have access to your system where things apparently went wrong so it could be really hard for him to know. So what you can do is to try to debug *yourself* why the upgrade went wrong and come forth with some analysis that shows to root cause of the breakage. And then you can also propose a fix. I am sure that would make it a lot easier for the maintainer to do "the right thing".

While mailgraph was started on boot in the past, this stopped
working with the upgrade to Debian 10, and I had to enable it
again. So issues with the upgrade to Debian 11, but the mailgraph
package has not changed. And who knows what will happend with
the next upgrade...

I can see in the debian/default.conf file:

# Should Mailgraph start on boot (true|false) (default: true)
BOOT_START="true"

So I don't understand what is the intent for the default settings.
To run it on boot or not???

Evidently the package is offering a choice on whether to start or not to start mailgraph on boot. By virtue of that option existing it seems that not everybody wants mailgraph to be started on boot.

Note that I was already using systemd in Debian 9, so that it is
not normal that mailgraph stopped working after the upgrade to
Debian 10.

Don't be all up in arms about the problem. Try to find out why it's broken and try to propose a fix and to work with the maintainer.

Note that not only you might get frustrated but the maintainer might too in which case he might decide to give up on the package and then you'll be left with less than when you started. So try to keep the conversation friendly, supportive and cooperative.

All the best!
*t


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