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Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

On 7/14/21 9:54 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> Sean Whitton dixit:
>> * #978636 move to merged-usr-only?
>>  We were asked to decide whether or not Debian 'bookworm' should
>>  continue to support systems which are not using the merged-usr
>>  filesystem layout.  We decided that support should not continue beyond
>>  Debian 'bullseye'.
> What? WHAT? WHAT?
>>  The decision is captured here:
>>  <https://bugs.debian.org/978636#178>
> No reason provided either. This stinks. I’m v̲e̲r̲y̲ disappointed.
> Debian is becoming untenable. Years ago, I had hoped it won’t.
> bye,
> //mirabilos

Hi Thorsten,

Sent privately, I hope you don't mind.

I very much like you, and appreciate the work you're doing in Debian.
However, I would not like at all if this is the start of yet-another
drama in Debian. We had enough of this.

Instead of complaining about change, it'd be nice if instead, you were
embracing it, and tried to contribute fixes for the parts that you're
maintaining in Debian. I'm not asking you to be enthusiastic about
changes you don't like, but maybe you could at least tried to understand
others are trying to improve things, rather than destroying your work.

Merging binaries in /usr and getting rid of /bin and /sbin, at the end,
WILL be an improvement. Debian cannot be the last distro not doing the
move, I hope you understand that.

Also, I'm having a hard time understanding why moving binaries around
should just break any system, especially if we have workarounds, like
symlink and/or bind mounts or the like. If non-systemd setups are having
issues, please just fix them... The end result *will* be a better Debian.

Last thing, the discussion happened a long time ago, you had plenty of
time to react, especially before the TC voted. Reacting so late, with
such emotion is really uncalled for.


Thomas Goirand (zigo)

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