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Re: Salsa CI news



I think you should stop here and now. You are misinterpreting DFSG to make a point. And instead of asking how you can help you just throw accusations. In both you recent threads. We are all in this together and your style is not helpful just hurtful.

Ondrej
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Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org>

> On 6 Feb 2020, at 00:13, Dmitry Smirnov <onlyjob@debian.org> wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, 6 February 2020 9:53:09 AM AEDT Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 6 February 2020 9:25:29 AM AEDT intrigeri wrote:
>>> I'd love if you would use wording less morally/emotionally loaded than
>>> "excuse" here: for me at least, "excuse" is bound to the thought
>>> framework of guilt, accusation, and absolute right vs. absolute wrong.
>>> Framing the discussion this way can easily lead folks to react in
>>> a defensive, non-constructive way.
>>> 
>>> Maybe, instead, you meant something like "what reason is there to do
>>> X?", or "why do you think this trade-off is the current best
>>> solution?" :)
>> 
>> Valid, thanks. Though you could have lectured us both on the tone we have
>> used as I was merely responding to rather aggressive reply.
> 
> On second thought, yes I would use "excuse" anyway precisely for its moral 
> implications and accusation of wrongdoing. In another community it would not 
> be obvious that DFSG compliance is a good thing. But here in Debian where we 
> all agree that DFSG is good, and compliance concerns should be default, 
> ideally. It should not be necessary to call for DFSG compliance. It should be 
> on abuser to explain that it was not possible to build a service in a fully 
> DFSG compliant manner only from components provided by Debian. I'm not saying 
> that DFSG compliance is optional (or that it doesn't matter) yet you are 
> bothered with _my_ tone. I'm much more troubled by attitude of not caring for 
> DFSG...
> 
> -- 
> Best wishes,
> Dmitry Smirnov.
> 
> ---
> 
> Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the
> experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination
> to do so.
>        -- Mahatma Gandhi


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