Hi,
On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 12:28:23PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> Note that by way of counterargument, Google and its services
> have
> been blocked in mainland China by the Great Firewall for
> nearly a
> decade now, so I question whether there is really such a
> thing as
> "too big to block."
This is a false dichotomy: not all nation states are willing to
go to
the extreme lengths as China.
Also, China cannot block Github, because they have no
equivalent, and even
if they did, it wouldn't have the same content. Google is too
easily
replicated, because they have no immediate contributors.
I expect that China will set up a proxy service with clones of
all relevant
Github repositories soon to keep read-only access to free
software around
but inhibit organizing through shared documents.
CloudFlare has too many services behind them that are important
for the
economy and not replicable, so they are in a better position
than Github
here.
Also, this is a cat and mouse game and DoH is probably just the
next
step :encrypted SNI will probably be needed as well later.
Mandatory Encrypted SNI with no fallback option -- everything
else can be
circumvented easily.
This is a game that we should not play, really. It raises the
cost of
running a service on the Internet so only big players can afford
to do so.
We are throwing some ice cubes into the boiling pot so there are
local
zones that are warming up slow enough that the frogs there do
not notice.
This is a losing strategy.
Simon