Re: Please stop hating on sysvinit (was Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?)
Hi.
I'm one of the people who has found systemd hugely valuable in server
environments.
Things I've found valuable include:
* Avoiding imperative languages for configuration
* Better configuration of security isolation
* Better restart semantics and monitoring of services/ways to configure
restart. I was one of the people who did use inittab to try and
restart services, found it wanting, and generally found that I had
inadequate tools for handling service restart. In some cases, I used
third party tools; in some cases, I accepted the decrease in
reliability
* Better separation of configuration especially for cloud and container
images. Fragments are helpful, as are things like conditios
* Tools like path-based units which can be incredibly helpful in
scripting security isolation and putting together simple queues
* Better log filtering and querying through the journal
I'll admit that I do use complex dependencies more on desktop or
appliance machines than I do on servers. However, I find systemd makes
me much happier as a sysadmin than any tool I've used before.
--Sam
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