Re: is Wayland/Weston mature enough to be the default desktop choice in Buster?
On Sun, Apr 07, 2019 at 05:59:38PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> Neither GNOME nor Wayland work on any screen-attached machine I own.
> There's usually just a black screen, and/or a return to the login manager
> (assuming it does start at all -- which is not granted for gdm3).
And gdm3 uses which backend?
> My machines are:
> * an amd64 desktop:
> * nouveau: way too crashy to be considered "working". With my old
> monitors (1280x1024 + 1200x1600) it crashed once a few hours, with
> new setup (2560x1600 + 1200x1600) it crashes every a couple of hours
> with regular work, or 7 times within an hour trying to watch a movie.
Within the last year only three bug reports showed up for the kernel in
Debian regarding nouveau. Which one is it? Als nouveau supports over
ten years of hardware.
> * Pine{64,book}:
> simplefb. GNOME no workie.
gnome-shell needs 3D stuff, as documented. So unrelated to Wayland.
> * RockPro64, used as a desktop (I'm typing these words on it):
> armsoc. GNOME no workie.
Hows the 3D performance on this?
> * N900:
> didn't try. I don't suspect it could work, though.
N900, the 10 year old mobile phone? Is GNOME in Debian configured to
use OpenGL ES, which is the only flavour this device talks?
> * qemu-kvm on work desktop:
> [Host GPU is i915 (HD530)]: black screen in default buster's GNOME
> (thus Wayland), Cinnamon at least gives a message. Very likely something
> with qemu's configuration -- but work time is not supposed to be spent
> wrangling desktop environment problems, thus I did not investigate.
I had no problem starting gnome-shell with the qlx stuff, not that it
makes any sense to do that.
> On every single of the above setups XFCE works perfectly.
But have you tried GNOME on Xorg, which is the question of this thread?
Bastian
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