On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 02:47:58PM +0000, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > On August 5, 2018 2:17:04 PM UTC, Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> wrote: > >On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 01:20:47PM +0000, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >> Package 'salvaging' is about an involuntary change of maintainer > >involving > >> someone who is sufficiently active in the project not to be MIA. > >It's > >> fundamentally different. > >> > >> I suspect it's constitutionally sufficient for the TC to approve the > >> salvaging process as long as the process allows them to resolve > >related > >> disputes. > > > >But there is _no_ dispute. All the maintainer has to do is to close > >the ITS > >bug within a month. Thus, if the bug remains unanswered, there is no > >one > >who would want to dispute the bug. And not even a temporary > >incapacitation > >is a problem: for an ITS to be filed, you'd need to neglect the package > >quite a while, thus the package was effectively unmaintained for much > >longer > >than a month. > > > >Involving the TC is a heavyweight process, and is fit for when there's > >an > >actual disagreement. A disagreement requires two parties, with ITS one > >of > >them is gone. > > So a maintainer misses one email and anything goes? No, they needs to miss >2 mails, but in reality more: - Before the package becomes eligble, it'd have bugs reported against it. - The ITS bug - The NMUdiff. (And even then, just talk wich each other; but this is a gerneal life thing, not really related only to this process here). > I have packages that look somewhat unmaintained that aren't. I may > seem somewhat oversensitive on this, but I recently discovered a > 'maybe we should remove this package' bug on one of my packages that > I'd missed the mail when it came in. > TC is also supposed to set technical policy (including "contents of > ... developers' reference materials"). I agree that invoking the TC > for each salvaging decision is heavyweight, likely excessively so, but > that isn't what I am suggesting. I'm suggesting that they review and > approve the salvaging POLICY (once and done, assuming they approve). David Bremner co-authored the process. Gunnar was present in the BoF. So, yes, TC members are already (informally) involved in this. -- tobi
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