Re: Rant about Debian reproducibility environment
Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
|Steffen Nurpmeso writes ("Re: Rant about Debian reproducibility environment"\
|):
|> But despite that and the possibly correct observation that placing
|> just about any environmental info in any non-system-dependent
|> object you can close the issue that is my rant, but will not get
|> away from the fact that you cannot expect exactly identical binary
|> outcome on two different build hosts, unless the actual build
|> environment is the same to the detail.
|
|This is true. But it is why the folks promoting reproducible builds
|have made tools which can reproduce the build environment.
|
|I think your implication is that the reproducibility is theoretical
|and therefore not useful. I appreciate why you might think that, but
|the reproducibile builds folks have made it practically possible, so
|it's not true.
While a bit off-topic, in November 2017 i shortly thought about
jumping over the big package maintainer hurdle of Debian and
installed it (the only Debian i ever had was 3.0 "Woody"). I have
used netinstall, and unselected all possible checkboxes (no X11,
no cups, the rest if have forgotten). This resulted in i think
one and a half gigabytes of download. I even had LibreOffice,
which i never had around until then. (It was of course
_completely_ unusable here, even opening a menu required half
a minute.) Now i know how it looks! I had to shutdown the VM
hard, because i was unable to find a button or way to open
a console or at least command line input window. (And i became
frustrated because moving around the cursor was _so_ slow, i think
every move caused swapping or something.)
Ciao,
--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)
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