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Re: Debian part of a version number when epoch is bumped

Am 14.02.2018 um 14:31 schrieb Jeremy Bicha:
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 7:57 AM, Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> wrote:
>>  ❦ 14 février 2018 12:53 +0100, Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> :
>>>>> Would it hurt to take those epoch bumps into Debian?
>>>> Depends on what you mean by hurt. I see epochs being used w/o much
>>>> tought or care, on many situations where they are not supposed to be
>>>> used, and they are permanent stigmas.
>>> I wonder where this representation of "epoch" as a "stigma" comes from.
>>> They're a part of a version number. They're as much a stigma as the "57"
>>> in "libavcodec57". What's the big deal? Just use it if you need to, and
>>> be done with it.
>>> There's really really really nothing wrong with using an epoch. If some
>>> of our (or someone else's) infrastructure has issues dealing with them,
>>> then that's a bug in the infrastructure and we should fix it. But nobody
>>> should be afraid of using an epoch when the upstream version number
>>> changes incompatibly, because *that's what they're for*.
>> It's not only an infrastructure problem. If you Depends on X (>= 1.8),
>> this will be true with X 1:1.6 as well.
> In the particular case of gnome-calculator, virtually nothing depends
> on a particular version of gnome-calculator. And in this case, it's
> probably better for me to just go ahead and upload the epoch bump,
> upsetting a few people, but it's not really a big deal at all and
> saves a bunch of needless work in the long run.

I understand where you are coming from as Ubuntu maintainer, but I also
share the opinion that packaging bugs should not be pushed upstream. If
we allowed that for every downstream we'd have a big mess.


Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the
universe are pointed away from Earth?

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