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Re: [CTTE #741573] Debian Menu System

On Sat, 05 Sep 2015, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
> 2015-09-05 3:49 GMT+02:00 Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org>:
> > [...]
> > >    2. In addition to those changes, the Technical Committee resolves
> > >       that packages providing a .desktop file shall not also provide a
> > >       menu file for the same application.
> >
> > That's good idea in general.  I hope lintian warning should come soon.
> >
> > This reminds me some DE dependent .desktop file.  Is there any best
> > practice how to do it for Debian?  KDE app not showing up on GNOME and
> > vice versa.  How to decide how much .desktop data are NotShowIn for what
> > environment?
> In general: Do not use NotShowIn/OnlyShowIn for most applications.
> There are only a few areas where it is actually useful, and this is almost
> exclusively configuration tools specific to one desktop environment.

Maybe not even then:  I certainly had to call some of the GNOME config tools
in the past even when running KDE, as it also configures application/toolkit
behavior.  I did it from the command-line, though, so I do not recall if
they did show on KDE's menus or not.

Use of these directives really requires careful though about the
implications.  IMO, any use at all of NotShowIn/OnlyShowIn should be a
lintian warning.

I'd even call for it to be a lintian error that must be overriden in a
case-by-case basis only after discussion in a relevant Debian ML, but this
hides potential issues when abused, so it might not be a good idea.

  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh

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