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Re: DE features dependent on Systemd



Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> wrote: 
        On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 03:02:51PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
        > The default should be safe.
        
        No.
        
        The default should be as safe as we can make it without becoming
        inconvenient.
        
        As long as we still support non-logind configurations (and I believe we
        still do at this point), having the first user added to several groups
        will still be necessary, otherwise non-logind configurations will not
        have working audio, and that is inconvenience.

We don’t support non-logind configurations.
We support non-systemd-as-pid-1 configurations, but they still run
logind through systemd-shim. 

In both cases (systemd-sysv or systemd-shim), ACLs should be correctly
set for the current user.

This “adduser first-user audio” was already useless in squeeze and it
hasn’t changed. 

Cheers,
-- 
Joss


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