Re: Where to upload official OpenStack Debian images?
On 31 October 2014 08:39, Juerg Haefliger <juergh@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> wrote:
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>> On 10/29/2014 12:54 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 03:58:04PM +0200, Juerg Haefliger wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org>
>> >> wrote:
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>> >>> On 07/18/2014 07:49 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> >>>>> [2] I contacted Steve McIntyre privately about it, but he didn't
>> >>>>> reply.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Bugger, sorry. Must have missed the mail totally. :-(
>> >>>
>> >>> As I wrote on IRC, I thought you were busy with arm stuff, so I didn't
>> >>> dare to ask again. It's probably my fault for not insisting.
>> >>>
>> >>>> I think we could/should have space on cdimage etc.
>> >>>
>> >>> That'd be awesome!
>> >>>
>> >>>> - how big are we talking?
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>> >>> 350 / 400 MB for the normal compressed qcow2 image. We could as well
>> >>> ship the raw image, but I don't think that's necessary since it's
>> >>> possible to convert the qcow2 back into .img using qemu-img.
>> >>
>> >> I'd love to be able to download Debian cloud images from an official
>> >> place.
>> >> What is missing/required to make this happen? Can I help?
>> >
>> > Simple lack of time thus far, to be honest. :-(
>> >
>> > Thomas: where are your images currently?
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>> Hi Steve,
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>> I upload them to the HP cloud, but also over here:
>> http://archive.gplhost.com/openstack-images/
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> Very good. Thanks for the pointer.
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>> Though this image contains the bootlogd patch to support logging on
>> multiple consoles. I'm currently trying to make this updated in
>> proposed-updates though (see: #767202).
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>> On 10/29/2014 05:13 AM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
>> > Lets build something like this:
>> > https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/ but, for Debian, of
>> > course... ?
>> > I can help.
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>> Let's stick to the plan of distributing the images together with the
>> Debian CDs.
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> What exactly does that mean, 'together with the CDs'?
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http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.7.0/
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>> It's not the role of Debian to advertize for a particular
>> provider like Amazon (even though it's IMO ok to maintain the images
>> within large cloud service providers).
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> I don't think this is about promoting cloud providers. It's about providing
> a central place for users to learn where official Debian images can be
> found. Are you concerned about the effort to maintain such a site or about
> Debian being perceived as favoring certain cloud providers or is it against
> some Debian policy?
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It's more to do with whether the images are fully free, built from
unmodified sources, are verifiable locally, and that the thing
launched from cloud provider panels is actually debian.
I would be happy to see to ec2/openstack/etc compatible images hosted
on cdimage, which users then may upload into a cloud environment and
launch them.
Debian policy is about packaging only.
This is more in-line with good intentions / Debian social contract.
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>> You may also know that we already provide some images within AWS. See
>> the debian-cloud list. I would recommend anyone that maintain images to
>> advertize about them in that list rather than in debian-devel or on the
>> Debian web site.
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> IMO it feels wrong for a potential user to have to hunt through mailing
> lists to find and learn about official Debian cloud images. A central place
> to download images (OpenStack, AWS, Docker, ...) is very useful, links to
> providers that host such images would be a nice add-on for end users but I
> can understand if there's resentment.
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Regards,
Dimitri.
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