For the heck of it, I will add that if in my job I pushed out crap like Network Manager and Pulseaudio at the time of introduction as 'the saviour of the Linux desktop' as a production release I would have fired long ago. Regards, Daniel On 11/09/14 12:10 AM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > > I will add that for a distribution that claims to be about it's users, > the systemd attitude of "We're *going* to use systemd so 'suck it up > Buttercup' really stinks at a social level. > > Not to mention, as many have pointed out, transition to systemd is *not* > going to be painless and without problems, in fact far from it. > > This is going to worse than the pulseaudio and network manager ages of > brokeness being forced on users before the systems are truly ready for > full deployment. > > Network Manager is just now, years later, getting bridge support, and it > is still under heavy development because a lot of the time it doesn't > work correctly. > > Do we really need yet another pushed-before-ready-for-production > 'solution' that drives people away from the Linux? > > The reason I chose Debain over Ubuntu was that Ubuntu had (don't know > about nowadays) a tendency to force things onto their users before they > were properly and Debian at least took a more 'slow-and-steady' approach > to improvements, and resisted upstart because it wasn't ready. > > Why is systemd is suddenly so differnt? > > I'm really not sure there are any sane distributions left at this point > in the F/LOSS world. > > Regards, > > Daniel >
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