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Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop



Am 11.08.2014 22:09, schrieb David Weinehall:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 01:47:53PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 07:42:41PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote:
>>> Available in GNOME 3.
>>>
>>> Available in GNOME 3.
>>>
>>> Not enabled by default (if I remember correctly), but possible to enable
>>> using gnome-tweak-tool.
>>
>> I shouldn't have to know that.  And I am pretty sure when gnome3 appeared
>> in sid, it wasn't available.
>>
>>> Not enabled by default (if I remember correctly), but possible to enable
>>> using gnome-tweak-tool.
>>
>> I will somewhat agree that one is hardly ever used since I just alt+tab to the other window I want.
>>
>>> Available in GNOME 3.
>>>
>>> Alt+space brings up the window menu in GNOME 3.
>>>
>>> So, sounds like GNOME 3 provides/can provide everything you seem to
>>> expect from a window manager.
>>
>> Trying to navigate the horrible menu system trying to find where to
>> configure things was highly unpleasant too.  It made windows 8 seem sane.
>>
>> I just believe the default when you install and log in the first time
>> shoudl be something that makes sense to your typical average user, and I
>> don't think gnome3 by default does that.  It can be tweaked to do so now
>> (I don't think it could initially), but the typical user won't know how
>> to do that.  The defaults are bad.
> 
> Well, if there's a consensus that the minimise/maximise
> buttons are needed (I always enable them, so I'd vote yes!), then
> I'm sure that the Debian GNOME team will be happy to enable those
> options by default.

Are you missing anything from the GNOME Classic mode *)? It offers
exactly what you are asking for, with zero need for configuration.
It's available right next to the GNOME session on your login manager.

Michael

*) GNOME Classic is GNOME Shell with a different set of extensions and a
different default configuration. Imho also a great demonstration of the
flexibility and extendability of the GNOME Shell infrastructure.


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