Greetings everyone, As brought up in this[0] thread, systemd-shim became incompatible with the latest versions of systemd and the alternative dependency was removed. While this is something I can totally understand, I don't think that systemd should migrate to testing without the possibility to use systemd-shim instead. My reasoning about this is as follows: Testing should be as close to a state in which it can be released as possible (I don't have a citation for that and just remember that I did read that somewhere, so please correct me if I'm wrong). Further we are not planning to release jessie without systemd-shim (at least I hope so, again please correct me if I'm wrong). This shouldn't be a huge problem, since waiting a week longer until systemd migrates shouldn't be that much of a problem, while it makes the risk smaller to accidentally remove your desktop-environment at a dist-upgrade (that's at least what apt wanted to do on my computer). To make it short: I suggest that systemd should only migrate together with systemd-shim. [0]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/07/msg00839.html Regards Sven
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