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Re: so, systemd now and teh world still turns...

Hi Steven,

On Mittwoch, 4. Juni 2014, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
> So in order for task-xfce-desktop to get tested, we could do:
> > apt-get install --no-install-recommends task-xfce-desktop
> > [...]

not sure what you mean, piuparts does this, yes.
> > The following NEW packages will be installed:
> And then make sure all packages listed there (244 currently) have no
> piuparts bugs?  And those would be listed here?

yes. you can also check https://piuparts.d.o/sid/source/p/pkg.html 
or https://piuparts.debian.org/sid/state-dependency-failed-testing.html and 
several others.

> https://piuparts.debian.org/summary.json
> [warning: big file]

that file too.

> > Are you implying that I could be telling lies because I was brainwashed
> > by the systemd tentacles?
> No nooo, I meant two things:

ah, thanks for the clarifications.

> It's quite fundamental that in free/libre open source you can prefer
> certain software and avoid others, and the reasons are left totally up
> to the user:  technical, political, ethical?

yeah, sure. thats exactly what those developers who are adopting systemd, are 
doing as well.

if these choices "take away" other people's choice, because stuff ceases to 
work in *new* versions, than I dont think it's those developers duty to fix 
> Anyway, I didn't want to get too much into that subject (again)...

me neither.
> Either way I think it's fairly clear that xfswitch-plugin is not
> officially part of XFCE:
> Description:
> > The "Goodies for Xfce" project includes additional software and
> > artwork that are related to the Xfce desktop, but not part of the
> > official release.

ok, I stand corrected and shall update my blog.


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