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Re: Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.



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On 02/11/2014 12:38 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:

> The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> writes:
> 
>> In my case: because I want to be able to read them conveniently at
>> a glance, without requiring the presence of a functioning
>> specialized tool for doing so. As the UNIX Philosophy puts it,
>> "text streams ... [are] a universal interface".
> 
> All the folks who are upset about the journal are aware, I hope,
> that, as configured in the current systemd packages in Debian at
> least (I haven't tried a generic upstream install), all journal
> messages are forwarded directly to syslog, right?  All the text files
> that you are looking for still exist in the same form they always
> have.

I believe I've seen that mentioned before, yes. and I'm certainly aware
of it now.

I was responding specifically to the question of "Why do you want your
log files in plain-text format?", which is orthogonal to the question of
whether systemd et al. support logging in such a format.

- --
   The Wanderer

Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny.

A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them.
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