Hi, On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 01:29:47AM +0000, Sam Hartman wrote: > In all seriousness. > Forking, or creating a Debian downstream because you'd like a different > boot approach sounds like exactly the sort of constructive approach that > will help you solve your problems and get an operating system you're > happy with. For me there is a lot more reason to fork: - Dropping Architectures - Gnome3 Bullshit - systemd Debian is not as useful as it was a couple years back. I started with debian because of m68k and later contributed the first mips and mipsel packages and hosted the first buildds for mips and mipsel. Debian has lost me since - The discussion about dropping and factual dropping of architectures - the Gnome3 stuff which is/was far from production quality (e.g. #698340, #698781), brokeness in debian installer (#712879) and now the systemd stuff. systemd hurts my minimalistic approach and beeing non portable is an absolute show stopper for me. Stuff which used to work gets broken and nobody cares. Probably i am an oldtimer and should switch to Windows or something (Which i never used). For me Debian over the last 5 years diverted far away from what i saw as my Desktop and Server OS. People in my surrounding switch to Mint, Ubuntu and whatever and i have no arguments to get them back because i also fight on a daily basis. So Debian - You lost me Just some feelings about my 15+ Year involvement with Debian. Flo PS: I dont think a fork would really work out but if some people would listen to the noise the systemd issue makes. IMHO its not about systemd per se. The past decisions about architectures and now systemd splits off some parts of our userbase. For me Debian has long lost the "Universal" in "Universal Operating System". -- Florian Lohoff f@zz.de
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