Hi, On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 12:10:11PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi Florian, > well, this could be related to Wheezy, or to you, or to the people you've been > talking with, or something else, or a combination... > > I've switched 3 users from Squeeze to Wheezy in the last 2 weeks, and also to > Gnome 3 btw, and they all *love* it. And I also must say, I'm quite impressed, > Debian on the desktop has come a long way. So, IOW YMMV. We are 4 people in the room and we all hate Gnome3. KDE is too bloated and xfce4 is too minimal. We all switched away from gnome-terminal to roxterm as gnome-terminal is full of resizing bugs. Multihead in Gnome3 is broken to no return. Backdrop image/gradient resizing/zooming is broken if different resolution heads. ~/.config/monitors.xml is nice but does not work at all - so you need to set your primary screen (in case its the external one) EVERY SINGLE TIME you plug in a monitor. If you do this the icons you have on your desktop partially disappear to anywhere away from the visible area. There is no way to get them back. So using nautilus to manage your backdrop window is unusable. cairo-dock does not detect primary screen change so needs to be killed and restarted. Lets not begin talking about the systray stuff and all people complainig about not beeing able to see pidgins icon anymore and though missing messages. This has all been working in gnome2/squeeze and simple stopped working and people try to convince me and others that Gnome3 is the best since sliced bread. Its NOT ! Gnome3 is a huge step back for my productivity. It might be the right thing for the swipe-zoom-multitouch-facebook kids of today who cant differentiate between running application and launcher buttons. I am a technical guy - if i press on a launcher button i meant to get a new instance of the application and not help to find my application on the 8 viewports - i know how to use alt-tab. Automounting usb sticks is a nice thing but why on earth does the popup on the bottom of the screen not disappear after some time? No thanks i dont want nautilus but the 2 options are "Open with Files" or "Eject" - None of them - I want you to shut up and close the popup. There is no close icon - so you klick into the popup somewhere not hitting the 2 options and it disappears - WTF?!?!? And then we have a bunch of Kernel thermal issues which every second day or so cause reboots an hour into the day because of CPU overheat issues after resume. Suspend/Resume issues because of the above nfs/cifs issues - so for some random issues my suspend hangs every 3rd day so i end up with a overly hot and empty notebook when i am home. Squeeze suspended reliably for years - I NEVER had to look after it. And now i am searching for a keyboard setup preseeding issue for the autoinstall infrastructure we have. It seems its completely broken, at least i have after 3 days not found a deterministic way of preseeding a de-latin1-nodeadkeys for console and X. For me wheezy is the worst of all Debian release i have been using since bo. Yes - Debian came a long way for Linux on the Desktop - but Wheezy is 2 steps back then Squeenze was. And yes i know - i can switch to $software for any random issue and fix it - but this is more or less a basic Debian/Gnome3 installation and my user experience not so positive. Flo -- Florian Lohoff f@zz.de
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