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Re: let's split the systemd binary package

> > > E.g. XFCE either wants ConsoleKit, or logind. If you look at ConsoleKit,
> > > you'll notice it is NOT maintained.  
> > 
> > XFCE *needs* neither and in fact the vast vast majority of users do
> > not either.  
> I check the spec files for Fedora, Mageia, openSUSE. They all seem to
> require logind. For Arch, seems as well, but not sure (difficult to
> verify). For Debian it is a recommends.

So all the systemd using Distro's!

How about Gentoo, Slackware, LFS and many many others?

> Needs neither seems to be true based on the recommends, but "vast
> majority" seems incorrect. I do wonder what breaks though :P

By vast majority I was meaning user requirements and not distro
packagers expectations, user requirements is actually the metric which
should count the most and most users do not need session tracking, it
can actually get in the way (one user using many logins, shutdown, usb
access etc.).

User requirements are normally automatically reflected by unix
developers but RedHats enterprise requirements and extensive dev time
have the potential to swing that even if they rectify it from time to

p.s. Whoever decided to use non unique names in gdm over unique
usernames for user selection must have had a strange thought process
going on.


'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work
together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a
universal interface'

(Doug McIlroy)

In Other Words - Don't design like polkit or systemd

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