On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 09:49 -0400, Marvin Renich wrote: > I believe that systemd/GNOME upstream is intentionally coupling the two > in order to force adoption of systemd. There are obviously others who > do not believe this. If it is true, however, I would consider it > sufficient justification to both change Debian's default DE and > eliminate systemd as a candidate for the default init system, regardless > of any technical merits. +1