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Re: Apport for Debian



On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 05:56:25PM +0100, Wookey wrote:
> +++ Steve Langasek [2013-05-13 11:22 -0500]:
> > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 06:21:24PM +0530, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
> > > On Monday 13 May 2013 03:55 PM, Arno Töll wrote:
> > > > note that, unlike Ubuntu we do not provide automated debug packages.
> > > > Hence many crash reports aren't usable at all when they are generated on
> > > > Debian systems.

> > > This could be a start. It could help users request debug packages from
> > > package maintainers.

> > This is a poor use of package maintainers' time.  The problem of debug
> > symbols packages needs to be solved centrally for the whole archive, not
> > with continued use of one-off builds.

> I second this. This is one thing Ubuntu has done rather better than
> Debian IMHO: mechanised the process of making debug packages so there
> usually is one without each package having to explicitly declare it
> and munge the rules file to make it. Adopting some similar scheme (or
> even the same one) makes a lot of sense to me. 

> Does anyone object to doing this? Are there problems with doing it?

From past discussions, I think there's a very clear consensus in favor of
doing this; it's now a SMOP.

The requirements are, in order:

 - implement the changes necessary to ensure all binary packages in the
   archive are built on the buildds, not on developers' systems[1]
 - deploy centralized infrastructure, outside of the main archive, to permit
   collecting debug symbols packages for distribution
 - adjust the buildds to begin generating debug symbols packages
   automatically - perhaps reusing pkgbinarymangler from Ubuntu, or perhaps
   using it as a reference

So I don't believe there's actually anything further to be discussed... it
just needs someone to do the work.  I suggest that anyone interested in
helping should talk with the ftp team.

-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer                                    http://www.debian.org/
slangasek@ubuntu.com                                     vorlon@debian.org

[1] let's not get dragged into the bikeshed again over the question of
developers being allowed to do source-only uploads, which is immaterial to
this discussion :P

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