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Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes



On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 15:09, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>>> > No, it's not. Source only uploads were banned many years ago, mainly
>>> due
>>> > to problems with maintainers not even build testing their packages.
>
>> They do. They just ignore the issue; they can do that because it's a
>> scalability issue that, ultimately, can be fixed by throwing large
>> amounts of hardware (for more build hosts) at it. Debian does not have
>> that luxury.
>
> I'm not sure how we can know the amount of unneeded build failures would
> be caused by such a strategy. Why do you think the current infrastructure
> can't handle these cases? How many do you think there will be, as a
> percentage?

I wonder if a somewhat straightforward solution would be for dak to
delay its usual processing (for source-only uploads only) until the
buildds produce binary packages on at least one arch?  Then, in the
case of a build failure on all archs, the upload would of course be
automatically rejected.

This kind of approach would at least keep fully unbuildable packages
out of unstable (it doesn't prevent arch-specific build failures),
which is what I think people really want.  This of course would
require some additional communication paths between dak and the
buildds.

Best wishes,
Mike


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