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Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

* Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> [130504 00:32]:
> The way to ensure that builds in non-clean environments work properly is
> to devise a method for testing them, and to do those tests on a regular
> basis and turn test failures into bugs.

Noone is speaking about non-clean environments, but only about
non-minimal, non-artifical ones.

> Trying to get at this testing indirectly by putting conditions on initial
> archive uploads doesn't really accomplish the goal.  It's a very random
> and scattershot way of testing that already doesn't work for any of us who
> use pbuilder and cowbuilder already.

That's why I think maintainers should not only build in pbuilders and
cowbuilders, but give their packages some actual testing.

        Bernhard R. Link

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